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renie408

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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:37 PM Dec 2012

Question: To those who think the Cliff is the best solution... [View all]

I am confused. Everything I read says that going over the fiscal cliff will not only raise taxes, it means that the AMT patch expires retroactive to January 1 of last year. Meaning that 26 million households will be hit with a tax increase of an average of $3700 immediately. Also, the IRS has already warned Congress that changing the AMT after the deadline will delay refunds and be a 'disaster' for tax payers.

Also, the consensus seems to be that the sequestration measures would practically insure another recession and an increase in unemployment. Then there is the lack of confidence this entire fiasco has engendered throughout the world that the American government just FUNCTIONS even remotely like a governing body should.

So, given all that and a whole bunch more, why are you all so giddily happy about this thing happening? I hear a lot of people here painting this rosy picture of the new Congress coming together to sing kumbaya and passing something that will be PRECISELY what we would all just love to have happen....completely ignoring the fact that many of the same people are going to be in that Congress and that we may be dealing with a Speaker Cantor.

I think this whole thing has been a disaster. It undermines whatever faith people have left in our government and threatens a very fragile economic recovery. I do not see why anyone would say, "Oh, just go over the cliff and enjoy the ride." as if this is all just some game. No matter what happens, this isn't fun or funny.

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dropping through the cliff samsingh Dec 2012 #1
No one expects the 'cliff' scenario to last railsback Dec 2012 #2
There is no 'fiscal cliff.' The politicians are lying leftstreet Dec 2012 #3
It is not the "best solution" jberryhill Dec 2012 #4
Going over the cliff is a horrible solution ... dawg Dec 2012 #5
Because if we don't stop the hostage crisis cycle, we'll surrender more and more and create TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #6
Ok, so it isn't that the fiscal cliff is so great... renie408 Dec 2012 #7
It's not a cliff and it's not good, it's simply the least bad deal out there so far. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #8
Who said it's the "best" solution MNBrewer Dec 2012 #9
The Cliff Isn't The Real Problem...The Ceiling Is... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #10
President Obama can ignore the debt ceiling is he chooses to and carry on as he wishes. byeya Dec 2012 #15
Good Luck With That One... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #19
It's called sacrifice. It used to be an American value. RB TexLa Dec 2012 #11
I have an 81 year old mother, two children and another kid that I have taken in renie408 Dec 2012 #13
I think you mean an American talking point... cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #18
Will it be as bad as the Y2K Bug crises or the Mayan Calendar crisis? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #12
According to fiscal cliff calculator I will lose 8% of my yearly income. That would suck. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #14
Business Insiced: Warren Buffett Explains Why He Isn't Freaking Out About The Fiscal Cliff OmahaBlueDog Dec 2012 #16
about the AMT, here's what CTJ says hfojvt Dec 2012 #17
Your concern is noted. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #20
And so is your disdain. renie408 Dec 2012 #22
Here's some important things to remember Major Nikon Dec 2012 #21
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