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lostnfound

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Sun Aug 31, 2025, 07:06 AM Aug 2025

Bizarre "explanation" for assassination of Minnesota democratic house member [View all]

Less than 3 months ago, the targeted murders of Minnesota speaker of the house Melissa Hortman, her husband, and attempted murders of State senator John Hoffman and his wife were tragic, dramatic, newsworthy and pivotal in Minnesota politics, given the 50-50 split in these houses. I was curious whether the murders had indeed resulted in tipping the balance in Minnesota’s house and also whether the murderer has been convicted. It has evaporated from the news — despite its dramatic and newsworthy nature.

Stupid google gave an automatic AI answer when i searched for ‘Boelter shooting’, and it was bizarre:
The "Boelter shooting" refers to an incident on June 14, 2025, in Minnesota where Vance Boelter, 57, allegedly shot and killed a man and injured a woman before being captured two days later. He was arrested on suspicion of the assassination of DFL House Leader Melissa Hortman and the attempted assassination of her husband, Robert Hortman. The investigation focused on Boelter's motive, which may have been related to financial stress from failed business ventures in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Key Details
Incident: June 14, 2025
Suspect: Vance Boelter, 57
Victims: A man was killed, and a woman, believed to be Melissa Hortman, was injured.
Arrest: Boelter was captured on June 16, 2025.
Allegations: Boelter is accused of assassinating a Democratic lawmaker's husband and attempting to assassinate the lawmaker.
Motive: Reports suggest Boelter was facing financial difficulties after his business ventures in the Democratic Republic of Congo failed.


Three bizarre features:
First, the motive was related to financial stress from a failed business venture???
Second, the allegations section suggests that Melissa Hortman didn’t die?
Third: the victims section implies what…? That we don’t know the identity of the woman?

From what febrile conspiracy-troll-farm land is AI deriving this slop?
Yes, I know AI has large deficiencies, and Google sucks, but really??

Don’t believe our lying eyes; just trust What The Party Tells Us. So handy for the dystopia that the GOP is implementing.
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Status - indicted on 6 federal charges on July 15th, pled not guilty on Aug 7 (links) lostnfound Aug 2025 #1
The charges are federal because . . . DarthDem Aug 2025 #9
Thanks for the clear explanation. I guess Pam Bondi and Kash Patel... lostnfound Sep 2025 #31
You're welcome DarthDem Sep 2025 #33
Damn TheFarseer Aug 2025 #2
It certainly appears that way. niyad Aug 2025 #8
Would you be surprised if they were? (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #17
Unlikely given how they work and our limited ability to control what the output will be EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #18
I pretty Rebl2 Aug 2025 #29
"I went to the shitty answer machine and it gave me a shitty answer." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #3
You're missing my point, nt lostnfound Aug 2025 #4
You both are correct wolfie001 Aug 2025 #15
No, they were repeating your point muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #34
What was your question/prompt? I got an entirely different response from Google. sl8 Aug 2025 #5
investigation boelter shooting lostnfound Aug 2025 #16
Thanks. sl8 Aug 2025 #21
Infowars-prepper-gun-guy anti-gay preacher doesn't fit the profile lostnfound Aug 2025 #6
Thank you for this information. Disturbing, and one of the reasons I niyad Aug 2025 #7
Agree DarthDem Aug 2025 #10
Yep. And what a waste of time having to verify. paleotn Aug 2025 #20
As important as better algorithms is what data they train on karynnj Aug 2025 #27
True, lots of great uses. An apparent down side is some loss of professional skils? lostnfound Sep 2025 #30
Wish a good billionaire could fund a library initiative to make an expanding carefully-trained database for public use lostnfound Sep 2025 #32
Yeah, like it's somehow able to sift through all the internet BS and return reality. In many cases, no. paleotn Aug 2025 #19
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #11
AI only knows what its fed. And it's feeding on the garbage pile that is social media. paleotn Aug 2025 #12
The national media always fades out on these rightwing hit stories viva la Aug 2025 #13
Yes, it was mentioned in early articles and yes, it was Democrats targeted karynnj Aug 2025 #28
Peter Thiel's greasy hands all over this wolfie001 Aug 2025 #14
i engage with AI only minimally barbtries Aug 2025 #22
We can tell there was no political agenda based on how the dude looks IronLionZion Aug 2025 #23
This is what I got when I expanded the Google prompt Aviation Pro Aug 2025 #24
Self delete to consider how I'm saying what I'm saying. But I think you are right. Hekate Aug 2025 #25
More evidence that AI is crap. All it knows is what it sucks up from every cesspool on the internet. Ocelot II Aug 2025 #26
I've seen some blatantly incorrect things from gen AI recently Renew Deal Sep 2025 #35
My favorite part of low-info AI hating is the unironic parroting of 'garbage in, garbage out' TheProle Sep 2025 #36
I've successfully used detailed prompts for plenty of deep structured answers. This OP was prompted by 2 concerns. lostnfound Sep 2025 #37
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