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slackmaster

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16. I mind encroaching on a woman's privacy

Reply to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:46 PM

Dec 2012

Let's also make every person wanting to buy a gun watch videos of the young children being mutilated by guns, then being buried. Make them watch the gun violence, the needless loss of innocent lives, the horror of it all. Make every person wanting to buy a gun undergo a waiting period and go through counseling before obtaining a gun.

How about instead of playing their silly game we keep both abortion and guns available as personal choices that can be made by responsible adults without unreasonable interference by government?

Abortion is regulated even where there are not extraordinary restrictions or procedural speed bumps that make it more complicated, expensive, or time-consuming than necessary in order to get one. The sale, possession, and use of firearms is also regulated.

Let's not bog good people down by making the free exercise of their choices harder. I'm not in favor of allowing just anyone to perform an abortion, nor do I believe everyone should be allowed to own any kind of gun. But there needs to be some common boundary within which free people are able to exercise freedom to choose how they wish to live.

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People don't NEED guns. They WANT them. [View all] ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 OP

ask them if they are Oath keepers or are riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #1

Some people actually do need them. I don't presume to judge another person's needs. slackmaster Dec 2012 #2

As long as they're honest about why they want them n/t ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #8

Now you're encroaching on the boundaries of privacy slackmaster Dec 2012 #10

They don't mind encroaching on women's privacy ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #12

I mind encroaching on a woman's privacy slackmaster Dec 2012 #16

kick samsingh Dec 2012 #3

Wrong! darkangel218 Dec 2012 #4

" I'm only excercising my constitutional rights." rainlillie Dec 2012 #18

+1 Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #26

And that is what makes your kind dangerous realgreen Dec 2012 #77

False dichotomy. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #78

Owning a gun and owning automatic weapons with huge magazines are not the same thing. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #33

Thats not what the OP was saying. nt darkangel218 Dec 2012 #37

Well its what I'm sayin' darlin'. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #38

Sweetie ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #41

Again, your post had nothing to do with my reply to the OP. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #49

What do automatic weapons weapons Jenoch Dec 2012 #55

One question... XRubicon Dec 2012 #58

I dont need AR15s, small handguns for self defense darkangel218 Dec 2012 #61

I am with you XRubicon Dec 2012 #63

Americans (first world populace) etherealtruth Dec 2012 #5

+1000 ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #9

If this were the old west days I can see how a gun would be a need. Initech Dec 2012 #59

Interesting, so nobody needs to protect themselves from the million+ violent crimes that occur... StayFunky Dec 2012 #60

I need guns to protect my livestock Go Vols Dec 2012 #6

You need food. I got no problem w/ that. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #13

When I was young, I needed a rifle and shotgun in order to feed my family. nt Zorra Dec 2012 #7

You know the level of "Need" based on the advertising. Pholus Dec 2012 #11

The first guy on twitter had asked: "why don't I need an assault weapon?" ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #14

not what the OP said. Go Vols Dec 2012 #15

people don't really need much more than food, water and air. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #17

And when someone comes to cut off your air supply ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #79

without 2A, the others are pretty much empty statements. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #82

If you want a shotgun to put food on the table, fine. PDJane Dec 2012 #19

How else does one become proficient with a firearm... Marengo Dec 2012 #20

Right. Apparently Adam L. had that. Worked well don't you think? MichiganVote Dec 2012 #32

Insipid. So, every gun owner who practices to be proficient with a firearm... Marengo Dec 2012 #73

Its my preference that they not have automatic, semi automatics or any other auto anything MichiganVote Dec 2012 #75

Do you believe "No one NEEDS to shoot targets" as the poster suggested? Marengo Dec 2012 #81

You still don't NEED an exploding target, nor do you need 30 rounds in the gun PDJane Dec 2012 #57

You said "No one NEEDS to shoot targets."... Marengo Dec 2012 #74

I want a firearm Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #83

Ranchers who sometimes need to protect their cattle from having broken legs after stepping in AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #45

That's a really specious argument....and yeah, ok, carry more bullets than 3 - 6. PDJane Dec 2012 #56

Yea, the ranchers can shoot 3 and then begin reloading while the rest scatter. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #64

I've lived on a farm. PDJane Dec 2012 #66

I lived on a ranch. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #67

Oh for chrissake, nothing like doubling down on stupidity. PDJane Dec 2012 #68

Prairie dogs are not groundhogs. I'll defer to your experience in "doubling down on stupidity." AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #72

Ok that's an argument to devalue other people's interests. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #21

So now we're supposed to place more value on a bear over kids in schools? Oh come on. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #29

Well that equivalence is yours and I suspect intentionally absurd for its theatrics HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #35

Intelluctualizing gun rights that include automatic weapons w/huge magazines MichiganVote Dec 2012 #36

No, it's what happens after we have acknowledged the problem and have moved on HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #39

Of course, the "overly broad characterizations of the mentally ill" will discourage some from AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #46

Yes, HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #48

I mostly agree with you assertion me b zola Dec 2012 #22

Where the debate ends. hay rick Dec 2012 #23

Right. They don't want to acknowledge there IS a difference. Because that would mean MichiganVote Dec 2012 #30

People don't need alcohol, either. eallen Dec 2012 #24

Mostly true, HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #25

Humans only NEED sustenance and shelter. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #27

sort of true, if you snip out the need for the means to secure those essentials. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #28

I'd say the means are implied. (nt) Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #42

Shelter and SAFETY kind of go together darkangel218 Dec 2012 #31

Like enormous trucks. Or, really, 4WD. Robb Dec 2012 #34

The fact they covet lethal weapons is reason enough to restrict them. Hoyt Dec 2012 #40

So Go Vols Dec 2012 #43

No sympathy for your poor pitiful gun plight and "earnest need" for semi-autos. Hoyt Dec 2012 #44

I have no gun plight, Go Vols Dec 2012 #47

I own guns because I want to. So what? Throd Dec 2012 #50

Why do you want them then? nt tblue Dec 2012 #51

I own all kinds of stuff I don't need. So do you. Throd Dec 2012 #52

Might as well face it BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #53

Some need them. Some want them. rrneck Dec 2012 #54

a question for those who say they need a gun mokawanis Dec 2012 #62

Who's the Secretary of Need these days? X_Digger Dec 2012 #65

All rights are wants and not needs Taitertots Dec 2012 #69

There is a difference but when someone wants something enough ... it becomes a need. nt Raine Dec 2012 #70

Depends on your definition of "need." "Need" as in you'll die if you don't have it? Maybe that's Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #71

We will always gain more mileage out of common ground than any boundary. Nt Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #76

True, but the same could be said about anything. ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #80