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1StrongBlackMan

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117. I completely agree ...

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:16 PM

Dec 2012

Having participated in high-stakes negotiations, I know that what is said in public, frequently, is unrelated to what is being said at the table; but is said to create a public perception. In this case, that public perception being promoted is President Obama CONTINUES to be reasonable and the gop continues to be unreasonable. And every Democratic candidate for 2014 should be rejoicing the President Obama is taking this tact ... it makes their road so much easier ... the campaign ads write themselves.

I wonder ...

Is President Obama (and his team) using the left's hair on fire tendency, tacticallyWhat would communicate reasonableness to independents/those in the middle more than having the left loudly expressing their discontent? That would explain the recent polling numbers.

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Boehner asks what he gets for $800b. Obama: "You get nothing." [View all] bigtree Dec 2012 OP

You mean like this??? JoePhilly Dec 2012 #1

But I've got a Golden Ticket. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #2

ha! bigtree Dec 2012 #3

Pres.Obama is Willy Wonka & John Boehner is Augustus Gloop. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #67

the repugs are worth nothing samsingh Dec 2012 #132

I was thinking more like Michael Corleone in the Godfather to the Senator from Nevada. "You get monmouth3 Dec 2012 #20

Does this mean the Speaker is going to have a dead hooker problem in the near future? n/t DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #35

HA! You never know...n/t monmouth3 Dec 2012 #49

Maybe w/ a horse head in the bed too. Botany Dec 2012 #110

I was wondering about that myself! backscatter712 Dec 2012 #130

Not to nitpick. Only because The Godfather II is maybe the only sequel I liked more brewens Dec 2012 #52

Me too! I was thinking Vito Corleone with Johnny Fontaine's manager when Boehner appacom Dec 2012 #82

There is nothing amazing about the President's statement. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #84

Yes, that is a more exact analogy. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #147

More like this. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #32

exactomundo CatWoman Dec 2012 #36

Perfect..n/t monmouth3 Dec 2012 #51

This came to mind for me. svpadgham Dec 2012 #96

Huge huge fan of UHF. Panasonic Dec 2012 #137

President Obama has the patience of a saint. I would have given Boehner something to cry about! Sunlei Dec 2012 #50

You're right. Very patient. He's going to keep insisting that SS be cut until Boehner accepts it. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #81

You're really a piece of work Hekate Dec 2012 #88

If he supports cutting SS with chained-CPI, shouldn't you? Why so unhappy about it? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #94

hey thanks alot strikeforce Dec 2012 #135

Not a cut for low income with the exemptions. The Romneys of the world will miss Sunlei Dec 2012 #106

Oops! BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #124

Yea like call in all his bar tab debts SummerSnow Dec 2012 #131

LOLOLOLOLOL! graywarrior Dec 2012 #55

I was thinking more like this: Initech Dec 2012 #59

Nope. More like this. (Warning: Earworm ahead!) Brickbat Dec 2012 #75

And this is the song Boehner can cheer himself up with... YayArea Dec 2012 #90

That is likley the best thing ive seen this year. Volaris Dec 2012 #140

Awesome sauce... Dudette Dec 2012 #146

Hey Boehner, You'll take nothing and like it! FSogol Dec 2012 #4

Prez's definitely not taking any shit from the oompa-loompa man bigtree Dec 2012 #6

Oh puh-leese. We know the rest of the story already BlueStreak Dec 2012 #23

link bigtree Dec 2012 #28

Second that notion Demeter Dec 2012 #29

plus one! wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #37

You mean if Obama becomes MORE of a Democrat than Ronald Reagan? bvar22 Dec 2012 #42

That would be a start... Demeter Dec 2012 #46

Ha! God I despise this shit. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #44

"the agenda of the extreme left" ??? bvar22 Dec 2012 #58

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What in the world? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #91

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Maybe you would be more comfortable here: http://www.freerepublic.com BlueStreak Dec 2012 #107

If the words of FDR sear your flesh so deeply, bvar22 Dec 2012 #121

* ronnie624 Dec 2012 #114

Really? This is right-wing? I think you are on the wrong forum. AllyCat Dec 2012 #118

Thank you for standing up for progressive values. mattclearing Dec 2012 #95

I believe that particular poster... bvar22 Dec 2012 #119

amen, bvar (n/t) bread_and_roses Dec 2012 #108

Another one. It's just amazing. Hekate Dec 2012 #89

You get the satisfaction of knowing that our nation is in better condition than before. That is what jwirr Dec 2012 #5

he'll get no satisfaction bigtree Dec 2012 #7

So much for the president being spineless democrattotheend Dec 2012 #8

I know, right? bigtree Dec 2012 #10

At least, not as much as they demanded democrattotheend Dec 2012 #12

+1000 southern_belle Dec 2012 #80

That's what I voted for. Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #9

People don't realize ProSense Dec 2012 #11

They also don't realize that what is said publicly is not what goes on behind the scenes democrattotheend Dec 2012 #26

I completely agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #117

They don't need votes from Democratic members of the House customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #53

The 98% who will have to pay much more in taxes are the ones pnwmom Dec 2012 #60

We'll see about that customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #61

I love the consequences for them: freshwest Dec 2012 #76

"Tax cuts expire and destroy the deficit." You're kidding, right? mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #93

I actually described three things which will destroy the deficit, without dividing, undersand? freshwest Dec 2012 #100

Yes, that is the Koch Bros. official talking point jpak Dec 2012 #115

Let's try it and see... KansDem Dec 2012 #126

No, that's a factual statement. mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #139

After WW2, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower... bvar22 Dec 2012 #128

Think about this; why was the WSJ the conduit for this information.... WCGreen Dec 2012 #13

! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #31

The WSJ customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #56

Yea, well, this wouldn't be getting out unless president Obama wanted it to get out... WCGreen Dec 2012 #63

I'm sure there was somebody in that room customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #64

the WSJ lies all the time. Where have you been? appacom Dec 2012 #83

On the editorial page.... WCGreen Dec 2012 #109

This is the type of news I like to wake up to in the morning. LonePirate Dec 2012 #14

I Would Like To Think This Reporting Is Accurate, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2012 #15

I think you got that just right, Magistrate. bigtree Dec 2012 #16

Two points grantcart Dec 2012 #17

It's always, "What's in it for me?" Rider3 Dec 2012 #18

I'd like to think that the next sentence after "You get nothing" is... mwooldri Dec 2012 #19

And when corporations send jobs overseas that means less taxes from workers. LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #48

Here are some more excerpts from the article democrattotheend Dec 2012 #21

it's a very good, long article Enrique Dec 2012 #27

The article is behind a paywall. Does someone have excerpts? meow2u3 Dec 2012 #45

If you google the headline, usually one of the links to it lets you in behind the pay wall. I don't Pirate Smile Dec 2012 #62

My favorite line: tblue37 Dec 2012 #85

Prez is done playing games with these clowns. HoosierRadical Dec 2012 #103

"What do I get for my uber wealthy 1% masters flamingdem Dec 2012 #22

That's a good way to put it democrattotheend Dec 2012 #24

I'm thrilled with Obama 2.0 flamingdem Dec 2012 #25

Sounds like Obama is almost ready to have his very own "Network" moment. You know, that coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #30

That's just an ignorant Cha Dec 2012 #54

I want a hamburger, no a cheeseburger. I want a hotdog. I want a milkshake. DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #33

Incentivize the Tax System bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #34

Finally faced the fact that the GOP are selfish siligut Dec 2012 #38

Damn!! Awesome. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #39

fuck you. pay me. frylock Dec 2012 #40

hahahahahahahahaha ellie Dec 2012 #41

"...and make me a sandwich." lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #43

Great comeback by Obama. I'm sure the article is an interesting read but............ George II Dec 2012 #47

See comment #24, above. nt DonViejo Dec 2012 #57

K & R Scurrilous Dec 2012 #65

But..but..but..Obama's a wuss! Kahuna Dec 2012 #66

BO is making the 1% start paying for their OIL WARS. nt patrice Dec 2012 #69

Not to mention making them pay for trying to take him down these past four years.. Kahuna Dec 2012 #70

Me too! It's been HARD to watch & scarey too! I could figure some of it out, but NOT enough. patrice Dec 2012 #71

Merry Christmas, Patrice.. Kahuna Dec 2012 #73

About damn time! jmowreader Dec 2012 #72

Memo to President Obama: OldRedneck Dec 2012 #74

Um, maybe an unfortunate metaphor right at the moment. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #77

Normally yes, but DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #86

We have no ideas what these deals are! grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #78

*SMACK* nt cbrer Dec 2012 #79

Hubby handed me the WSJ article this a.m. and laughed Hekate Dec 2012 #87

Thanks for the anecdote, Hekate~ Cha Dec 2012 #92

Now that put a smile on my face Hekate Dec 2012 #101

Chuck Colson worked for Nixon, not LBJ. And you attribute such a vulgar quote to LBJ? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #98

LBJ said much worse bigtree Dec 2012 #111

What you say is besides the point. The issue is whether LBJ or Colsen said that. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #120

LBJ might as well have said it. After all, it is indisutable that LBJ coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #122

No. What is falsely being attributed to LBJ (a Democrat) is the exact opposite of what he said AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #123

Oy vey. I hope you have a good holiday, my friend. I'm amused by LBJ's coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #127

He needs to crush some balls, not try to compromise with these repugnant a-holes budkin Dec 2012 #99

Cuts on social security and entitlements by January Ruba Dec 2012 #102

What's with the "Mr. Obama"? proReality Dec 2012 #104

seriously, you've NEVER heard/read the press refer to any presidents as "Mr...." ? eShirl Dec 2012 #105

It's not just President Obama they call "Mr...." boxman15 Dec 2012 #112

I've always understood the usage to be a step up from just using their last name bigtree Dec 2012 #116

Not even one fucking peanut! lonestarnot Dec 2012 #113

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I would have offered Boner a nice embroidered lace hankie aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2012 #125

So Boehner thought it a poker game of equals? bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #129

Sort of like the stimulus package - ha ha Zax2me Dec 2012 #133

Boner will awake Xmas morn to find a lump of coal in his stocking. SDjack Dec 2012 #134

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You tell them Mr. President! CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #136

He gets no cuts for Big war. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #138

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Great Quote angry citizen Dec 2012 #144

Go cry yourself to sleep bohner. undergroundpanther Dec 2012 #145