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haele

(15,546 posts)
24. Lots of homeless can't just "access shelters" Especially working Homeless and Families.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 01:13 PM
Sep 2025

Or disabled/elderly, or homeless with pets or caretakers/long term companions.
Shelters in California are too often just bunk beds in large warehouse rooms, gendered separately, with communal sanitary facilities and common dining service. And No Drug policy, which includes no Medication, especially psychotropics, or addiction medication. When you actually talk to homeless living in their cars along the main streets or in tent communities, the primary reasons they won't go to a shelter is because of
1. Limited hours, no storage, and first come, first served availability of beds every night.
2. rampant theft and lack of security
3. inability to bring medicine, family members, or companions...

See, most shelters offered are are first come/first served daily only, individuals need to be out by 0800 for cleaning and can't come back until 5 or 6 PM to claim a bed, and access is locked down after 8pm.
Disabled and only upper bunks are left? Work a late shift? Sorry, maybe they'll call around and secure a lower bunk for you at another shelter you're going to have to find some way of getting to.
Sick? You're not going to a shelter, you're going to a ER, and maybe your belongings will be sent along with you. Maybe
Need someplace to store what belongings -like the tools you need to do a job while your looking for work during the day? You're SOL.
Your choices are a bed at a shelter or a job, or live rough while you wait for more individual housing that actually fits your needs to open up on the list.

Individual housing coupled with maintenance and a Social Service component - even if it's just a safe camping/RV location or a lot with Tiny Houses on it, works. Massive warehouse rooms shelters only work for the individuals who have lost everything to keep them off the streets at night.

I have interacted with the homeless more than a few times; most are just people that couldn't afford housing after a bout of bad luck and are trying to keep what few belongings and documents they still have. Whatever the bad luck reason that put them in the situation, they still have some items they're desperate to hold on to, and most shelters offered either aren't safe enough or would let them keep those items
Despite the obvious junkies or mental cases most people notice and assume define the homeless, a majority of homeless are simply poor - retired, or work day jobs or part time low wage.
They have an income, but they're basically the "Two Paychecks Away" folks - who are living that saying "Most Americans are only two paychecks away from homelessness".

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Is he offering alternative shelter? Otherwise this is performative. Ritabert Aug 2025 #1
'...and expanding access to shelter and services.' Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #3
I'll believe it when I see it Ritabert Aug 2025 #5
With *any* politician Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #11
Sounds great! I'll believe it when I see it. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #8
As someone who has an encampment about a block from my house sboatcar Aug 2025 #2
We know what works, and it's housing first. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #6
I agree sboatcar Aug 2025 #10
You mean, like, expanding access to shelter and services? W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #12
No. I mean actually providing someone with their own private place without any strings, and then providing wraparound WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #13
Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good again, are we? W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #15
No, not at all. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #16
Well then while you are working towards all of that, don't hamper actual progress from being made. W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #18
Housing first is the strategy in my community BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #21
100 percent agree BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #20
Lots of homeless can't just "access shelters" Especially working Homeless and Families. haele Sep 2025 #24
The housing 1st model improves lives for the long term. mercuryblues Sep 2025 #27
Salt Lake City did this. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #28
Did you read the 1st sentence of the snip? maxsolomon Aug 2025 #9
Actually on the shoulder of 5?! obamanut2012 Aug 2025 #17
The east side of 1-5 just north of the Ship Canal Bridge has a wide hillside from 45th St. to 50th St. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #19
There's several pop-up communities at Freeway intersections here in San Diego . haele Sep 2025 #25
People need hope and need a better, not cold and brutal society DSandra Aug 2025 #14
They're just NOW forming a task force? leftstreet Aug 2025 #4
When you make a task force BEFORE you sweep out encampments and destroy people's belongings, that's progress. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #7
It's not a broom you need Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #22
"expanding access to shelter and services" JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #23
statewide task force bigtree Sep 2025 #26
Who here wants all important belongings destroyed? TommyT139 Sep 2025 #29
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