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KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
19. Good Luck With That One...
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:14 PM
Dec 2012

Most people won't feel the "cliff" on Jan 1...or at least until they start working on their 2013 taxes. It WILL hurt people whose extended unemployment insurance benefits will run out and a major reason I would like to see a deal reached before these people suffer. That's "livable" as Dr. Dean and Reich have said...however both have said that not raising the debt ceiling can and will hurt millions. If the government can't pay its debts it won't be able to provide services...and those hit worst will be those who are in need the most...and those people won't care which party created their hardships.

The key here is to force a deal on not only the "cliff" but the debt ceiling as well and prevent rushpublicans from being able to use the debt ceiling as a way to blackmail this administration into draconian cuts to social services. As has been said by others, a compromise will have to be reached that can gather enough rushpublican votes to get through the House. The deficit mess is real...it's the bill for dubya's war for profit and tax giveaway...it can't be ignored and the sooner its fixed the healthier the economy will be that will benefit us all...

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dropping through the cliff samsingh Dec 2012 #1
No one expects the 'cliff' scenario to last railsback Dec 2012 #2
There is no 'fiscal cliff.' The politicians are lying leftstreet Dec 2012 #3
It is not the "best solution" jberryhill Dec 2012 #4
Going over the cliff is a horrible solution ... dawg Dec 2012 #5
Because if we don't stop the hostage crisis cycle, we'll surrender more and more and create TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #6
Ok, so it isn't that the fiscal cliff is so great... renie408 Dec 2012 #7
It's not a cliff and it's not good, it's simply the least bad deal out there so far. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #8
Who said it's the "best" solution MNBrewer Dec 2012 #9
The Cliff Isn't The Real Problem...The Ceiling Is... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #10
President Obama can ignore the debt ceiling is he chooses to and carry on as he wishes. byeya Dec 2012 #15
Good Luck With That One... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #19
It's called sacrifice. It used to be an American value. RB TexLa Dec 2012 #11
I have an 81 year old mother, two children and another kid that I have taken in renie408 Dec 2012 #13
I think you mean an American talking point... cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #18
Will it be as bad as the Y2K Bug crises or the Mayan Calendar crisis? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #12
According to fiscal cliff calculator I will lose 8% of my yearly income. That would suck. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #14
Business Insiced: Warren Buffett Explains Why He Isn't Freaking Out About The Fiscal Cliff OmahaBlueDog Dec 2012 #16
about the AMT, here's what CTJ says hfojvt Dec 2012 #17
Your concern is noted. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #20
And so is your disdain. renie408 Dec 2012 #22
Here's some important things to remember Major Nikon Dec 2012 #21
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