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nc4bo

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70. It may not matter but maybe it could have.

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #47)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:49 PM

Dec 2012

I am just speculating...it's really all any of us have right now, alot of what ifs.

What if he attempted to use his older brother's ID so he could purchase guns? Wasn't he reported to have tried to buy a gun before he went on his massacre? We don't know.

What if the gunshop owner suspected the ID was fake and didn't report it? What if it was immediately reported and authorities notified (like what happens in credit card theft)?

What if the older brother suspected his younger brother attempted to get ID in the other brother's name? Could reporting the activity have changed anything? We don't know.

Could warning signs have alerted people or warned people in Adam's circle or whomever had personal contact with him?

You're probably right, it doesn't matter but what if it did?

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Ryan Lanza Says,"You Have No Right To Call My Brother Names When He Isn�t Here" [View all] HipChick Dec 2012 OP

"when he isn't here no more" Warpy Dec 2012 #1

And this: ".....I loss my mom and brother....." kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #45

Bingo. TTE, "Just saying/believing/feeling makes whatever true," no need to understand how things patrice Dec 2012 #52

You have no idea what his political leanings are. antigone382 Dec 2012 #54

Ryan Lanza is a college graduate. LisaL Dec 2012 #56

Might not be ... DakotaLady Dec 2012 #78

You would think so, but I would say this is not necessarily true. antigone382 Dec 2012 #88

Ryan Lanza didn't post these messages. LisaL Dec 2012 #115

Thanks for the info. n/t antigone382 Dec 2012 #118

I hold a masters nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #103

really? you hold a masters? zappaman Dec 2012 #105

Oh jeeze... UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #163

IT'S A HOAX. Damn it Beaverhausen Dec 2012 #155

THANK YOU. nt MH1 Dec 2012 #83

his family MichaelHarris Dec 2012 #158

So is half of my immediate family. I hope their beliefs are not projected on me. antigone382 Dec 2012 #159

I wonder if he posts in Freeperville malaise Dec 2012 #89

What did he do to offend you? antigone382 Dec 2012 #100

Yep. Those kids were home schooled. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #107

That's a good point NewsCenter28 Dec 2012 #161

How dare you tblue Dec 2012 #112

maybe he was crying when he wrote that. Whisp Dec 2012 #120

wow. that is startlingly narcissistic. cali Dec 2012 #2

Just slightly. nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #22

Sounds like serious grieving to me Gman Dec 2012 #24

He's grieving WolverineDG Dec 2012 #26

Seriously. I don't get the hatred and mocking of this person. He has to deal with a hell of a lot of uppityperson Dec 2012 #95

Because someone has to be punished WolverineDG Dec 2012 #127

Not at all obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #46

I invite you to trade lives with him if you think you could do a better job in this circumstance. antigone382 Dec 2012 #96

I seriouly think it would behoove him simply to follow his father's exmple cali Dec 2012 #139

Be that as it may, as a person who has grieved, I have few expectations of the grieving. antigone382 Dec 2012 #156

The whole family I guess was a little off. tblue Dec 2012 #113

He can say what he likes CJCRANE Dec 2012 #3

He said that when CNN identified him as the shooter WolverineDG Dec 2012 #29

I understand why he wrote those things CJCRANE Dec 2012 #44

This is why social media can suck. It would be better if he TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #4

this tj_crackersnatch Dec 2012 #63

Understood, but at this point does he really have that option? antigone382 Dec 2012 #97

Twilight, I suspect you may around my age� I grew up without Facebook, computers. Social media can KittyWampus Dec 2012 #99

No doubt that it's been a hard few weeks for him fishwax Dec 2012 #5

People enjoy doing the guilt-by-association thing. Posteritatis Dec 2012 #10

Yes, that's true enough. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #31

I am going to break from the other responses ... etherealtruth Dec 2012 #6

I 100% agree with you obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #9

Maybe this is the best way for him to cope... CJCRANE Dec 2012 #14

How would any of us act in this situation? etherealtruth Dec 2012 #18

I totally agree. He needs time and space to grieve as much as other survivors Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #19

agreed...likely his entire world has crumbled... smackd Dec 2012 #38

Especially since, for the rest of his life, he will be known as the brother of the Newtown killer. alarimer Dec 2012 #84

That was my first response also get the red out Dec 2012 #58

I'm with you to some extent... cascadiance Dec 2012 #140

He is a victim, I feel very bad for him obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #7

Yes, I too feel that he is a victim. rainlillie Dec 2012 #13

I think we posted similar sentiments at ~ the same time etherealtruth Dec 2012 #15

he is a victim CreekDog Dec 2012 #25

I agree 100%. He, too, is dealing with something unimagineable. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #33

spot on (n/t) MissMillie Dec 2012 #172

How did your brother get your ID? nc4bo Dec 2012 #8

you seem to be blaming the older brother for what the younger brother did CreekDog Dec 2012 #27

And you are putting words into my mouth. nc4bo Dec 2012 #50

Yeah, I Keep Waiting For That Matter To Be Straightened Out. Paladin Dec 2012 #32

Who cares? obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #47

It may not matter but maybe it could have. nc4bo Dec 2012 #70

He was old enough to buy a long gun DevonRex Dec 2012 #86

Yeah, Actually, It Does Matter. (nt) Paladin Dec 2012 #75

First, nobody said it was valid ID. DevonRex Dec 2012 #62

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I'm not sure what you're getting at... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #91

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #171

Been at the nog already? DevonRex Dec 2012 #94

Ryan didn't do anything wrong, rainlillie Dec 2012 #11

It's probably how he's trying to deal with it obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #16

sad. sad. sad situation. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #12

I am sure nobody can truly imagine what this man is going through. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #17

Give him a goddamn break, people. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #20

He should shut down his FB and lay low.. HipChick Dec 2012 #21

That would be probably be most helpful for him etherealtruth Dec 2012 #23

of course, it would be hard to do that without further isolating him from his friends and family CreekDog Dec 2012 #30

As far as I can tell, he did shut it down. LisaL Dec 2012 #55

the media reports shows screen captures of his Facebook HipChick Dec 2012 #60

I am sorry, but just because somebody claims to be Ryan Lanza while chatting with NYP, LisaL Dec 2012 #61

Do you even know how to access Facebook HipChick Dec 2012 #65

Seriously? You think everything posted on facebook is truth and nothing but the truth? LisaL Dec 2012 #77

His Facebook profile is still active? brentspeak Dec 2012 #81

The update below the pics states his family says it was an impostor. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #147

Why won't TMZ leave this guy alone? We all should. nt valerief Dec 2012 #28

It's an entertainment gossip site. Their entire MO is stalking. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #37

I think he should have stayed away from posting anything anywhere... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #34

Agree..he needs to lay low, before he comes a victim HipChick Dec 2012 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #35

He killed 20 children. He isn't getting off that easy. Initech Dec 2012 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #41

He didn't kill anyone obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #48

This is very sad. I feel sorry for him. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #42

Might be a hoax brentspeak Dec 2012 #40

He's a young man dealing with an unimaginable situation Marrah_G Dec 2012 #43

I certainly feel sorry for this poor guy ibegurpard Dec 2012 #49

I agree, Ryan. Understanding is not excusing, is not approval. & Hate is slavery. nt patrice Dec 2012 #51

Where is the evidence that whoever posted this, really is Ryan Lanza? LisaL Dec 2012 #53

Well Ryan Lanza.... 99Forever Dec 2012 #57

Why di you have "feelings" in scare quotes? obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #74

WTF? 99Forever Dec 2012 #76

Why do you have "feelings" in scare quotes? obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #145

scare quotes???? 99Forever Dec 2012 #150

Sad! Sadiedog Dec 2012 #116

You have that right. 99Forever Dec 2012 #117

Ok. Sadiedog Dec 2012 #121

Rather, you have made the conscious decision to deny extending compassion LanternWaste Dec 2012 #169

Oh my! 99Forever Dec 2012 #170

He's probably been defending little bro his whole life DevonRex Dec 2012 #59

Yup obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #72

I feel bad for Ryan, and even for Adam. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #64

Do you "feel bad" for the S.S. men who shot multitudes of children? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #67

JFC obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #69

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Paging Mike Godwin GObamaGO Dec 2012 #164

This message was self-deleted by its author TeamPooka Dec 2012 #66

Totally ridiculous obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #71

yeesh. fishwax Dec 2012 #106

I stand with Ryan Lanza against the bullying tyranny of cruelty & gossip! nt patrice Dec 2012 #79

I feel bad for Ryan, it's not easy losing your mother and your brother in this way. AndyA Dec 2012 #80

Frankly, what would you expect someone to say in that situation. If someone you loved did something still_one Dec 2012 #82

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #85

And he was carrying his brother's ID because...? help.help. me rhoda Dec 2012 #90

People need to leave him the fuck alone. easttexaslefty Dec 2012 #92

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #93

That is SO NOT his Facebook page. Catherina Dec 2012 #98

And if the country has empathy... nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #101

I wouldn't be surprised to find out this is a fake. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #102

It's a total fake: " NY Post admits "Ryan Lanza Facebook interview" was fake" Catherina Dec 2012 #104

Yeah, we do have a right.. UnFreakingfortunately. Wow.. Cha Dec 2012 #108

All I can say is tell that to the families who lost loved ones. southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #109

Sadly he also lost two family members nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #110

yes your right. I do feel terrible for the young man. I feel very bad for his brother that southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #114

I can do it for both nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #122

good for your. I am proud of you. southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #174

There is no such thing as "more empathy" obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #143

your right. lets leave it at that. southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #173

I seeeeeee MFM008 Dec 2012 #111

Whether or not this is really Ryan, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #119

It's really not Ryan. LisaL Dec 2012 #124

But it still must be a very difficult time for him, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #125

Please self-delete - this is a hoax alp227 Dec 2012 #123

The story is a HOAX. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #126

Yes, it is. The NY Post has an update saying so as well. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #148

this one could be a lunatic as well samsingh Dec 2012 #128

Just stop it. The story is a hoax The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #129

maybe the nra is a hoax they are too afraid to stop samsingh Dec 2012 #131

What's the NRA got to do with this thread? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #133

i don't feel sorry for the murderers brother - i'm more concerned about the victims samsingh Dec 2012 #136

He is also a victim obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #142

there's no evidence that he's a victim samsingh Dec 2012 #167

A) As noted upthread, this story is a hoax RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #130

Yeah, but it sure sorted the sheep from the goats Fumesucker Dec 2012 #132

I'm embarrassed for DU at some of the responses. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #134

agreed obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #141

Some sick person did this to create more hate toward Ryan Lanza. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #152

The truth is, he did lose both his mother and his brother in the massacre GObamaGO Dec 2012 #135

I don't think somebody posting these things and pretending to be him is making him feel any better. LisaL Dec 2012 #137

True GObamaGO Dec 2012 #138

Ryan Lanza IS a victim. . . but ADAM LANZA is NOT BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #144

Well, it's his brother and mother. He's not objective. He may still be in shock, too. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #146

It's a hoax. LisaL Dec 2012 #149

Oh. What a jerk-y thing for someone to do. That explains the bad grammar. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #151

Sure does. LisaL Dec 2012 #154

s LiberalMadeline Dec 2012 #153

Ryan is very much a victim. DapperDon Dec 2012 #157

Hey Ryan--your brother is an inhuman monster and a stinking coward Arkana Dec 2012 #160

This story is a hoax. LisaL Dec 2012 #162

And Ryan Lanza did none of it. GObamaGO Dec 2012 #165

Wow, the ugly here just keeps getting uglier Catherina Dec 2012 #166

Good grief! HappyMe Dec 2012 #168