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wiggs

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14. I remind old timers that in TSF's first term there were credible and somewhat credible theories that TSF was
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:03 PM
Sep 2025

trying for a new global order which involved the US, Russia, China, Middle Eastern states including Israel, and IIRC North Korea.

Not hard to imagine that elements of this survive today...authoritarians agreeing to divide up the world using an infinitely greedy, limited, narcissist for the final push. His neediness to be close to authoritarians surely survives. Certainly these are 'not good men'. But that may not be the end of the story. Questions of 'why' remain and are important.

I'm aware these theories and the writer who championed them is controversial even on DU...not intending to re-litigate him. Just reminding that we can't ignore the forest for the trees.

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Gone almost without notice in the US press: the EU and Mercosur are at threshold of a deal Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #1
it only stands to reason NJCher Sep 2025 #11
Trump is a useful idiot ... agingdem Sep 2025 #16
Let us not forget... GiqueCee Sep 2025 #12
"forfend" What a perfect word! BarbD Sep 2025 #31
Well, Duh? The rest of us knew he wasn't a serious person 8 years ago surfered Sep 2025 #2
hah, I just started a similar thought as another post. RoeVWade Sep 2025 #3
Great minds.... surfered Sep 2025 #9
I'm sure that they've known he's not a serious person for years. ShazzieB Sep 2025 #33
Trump never made it passed his terrible twos. I will never understand the appeal. n/t iscooterliberally Sep 2025 #4
Neither will I. calimary Sep 2025 #21
many americans never made it beyond that maturity either pimpbot Sep 2025 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Sep 2025 #26
He hates the right people for the most of his followers. Norrrm Sep 2025 #29
What's this "no longer" bullshit? No one ever has taken Trump seriously. Ray Bruns Sep 2025 #5
For real Orrex Sep 2025 #7
That was my first thought. No world leader has ever mistaken him for someone worthy of respect. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2025 #13
It was the TV show....people thought is was real ashredux Sep 2025 #6
Yep. progressoid Sep 2025 #8
MAGAs take pride in that graph pimpbot Sep 2025 #25
it is a very serious global situation that the US is headed by unserious clowns. nt wiggs Sep 2025 #10
I remind old timers that in TSF's first term there were credible and somewhat credible theories that TSF was wiggs Sep 2025 #14
Its only "controversial" in the sense that the media are feckless lightweights Cosmocat Sep 2025 #32
Strongmen gfarber Sep 2025 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2025 #17
Look at his character, look at his history, look at his business success, listen to him speak Scalded Nun Sep 2025 #18
That means they have no faith in American voters either FakeNoose Sep 2025 #19
It took them THAT LONG TO FIGURE that out? Stupid fucks! nt Exp Sep 2025 #20
Russians had him figured out years ago BaronChocula Sep 2025 #22
The world doesn't have to, but Americans have to, no matter how he talks or acts. ancianita Sep 2025 #24
Trump can con American chumps... returnee Sep 2025 #27
Now if only the media kacekwl Sep 2025 #28
Teamwork with Trump Norrrm Sep 2025 #30
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