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Bluetus

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24. Dems need to be creative. Look for ways to succeed rather than looking for ways to capitulate.

Sat Sep 6, 2025, 05:43 PM

Sep 6

Here's an idea. Pritzker could mobilize just the top 3 or 4 layers of the Guard's chain of command. That might be enough to establish that the Guard is mobilized under the Governor's command. And that. in turn could give friendly courts the basis for blocking any attempt by Trump to take over control.

In other words, with the top officers mobilized, Pritzker could give them orders to not accept any intrusion by the Feds, and force Trump to go to court if he wanted to take over. And in court, he would have to give a showing why this would not violate Posse Comitatus.

I'm not a lawyer, certainly not an expert on this kind of impasse. Maybe it wouldn't work, but it seems to me it is worth trying. If it forced Trump to go to court for a month to try to take control of the Illinois Guard, well, Trump would be off on some other crazy thing by then.

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Pritzker: "The President of the United States is threatening to go to war with an American city. " [View all] tblue37 Sep 6 OP

Pritzker should mobilize the Illinois Guard under his command preemptively Bluetus Sep 6 #1

Mobilizing the entire State's Guard would be an expensive proposition. TomSlick Sep 6 #21

Dems need to be creative. Look for ways to succeed rather than looking for ways to capitulate. Bluetus Sep 6 #24

Interesting idea. TomSlick Sep 6 #25

I don't really understand the officer levels Bluetus Sep 6 #35

You've made me reconsider. TomSlick Sep 7 #42

Cool. That would depend on cooperation from the Guard officers. Bluetus Sep 7 #44

There comes a time to spend the money. Queso Delicioso Sep 6 #36

Trmp is a SICK MAN. spanone Sep 6 #2

He really is, in more ways than one! ShazzieB Sep 6 #19

that's a big understatement nt orleans Sep 6 #37

TY.. Good on Gov Pritzker... I was Cha Sep 6 #3

Trump isn't even smart enough to be embarrassed leftstreet Sep 6 #4

He's telling the country he is a fucking sadist. GoodRaisin Sep 6 #5

"Donald Trump isn't a strongman, he's a scared man." Sogo Sep 6 #6

And I love the timms139 Sep 6 #7

Pictures soldierant Sep 6 #10

If you timms139 Sep 6 #18

Well, yeah, soldierant Sep 6 #22

Impeach Stpaoulboy Sep 6 #8

Orange man has survived impeachment twice. He has reason to believe he is invulnerable... Hekate Sep 6 #14

Careful what you wish for, asshole. orangecrush Sep 6 #9

TACO's Military History MissouriDem47 Sep 6 #11

If Republicans don't impeach this madman they will go the way of the Whigs. Joinfortmill Sep 6 #12

Illinois AG on MSNBC right now talking about the invasion. Amaryllis Sep 6 #13

Having a hard time canetoad Sep 6 #15

Ney. ReRe Sep 6 #16

I still don't think we have the right angle on this gulliver Sep 6 #17

I'm not sure what you mean. ShazzieB Sep 6 #23

He is probably projecting again Inkey Sep 6 #34

You obviously haven't listened to Pritzker, Newsom, Mayor Johnson, Mayor Muriel Bowser Arazi Sep 6 #29

I posted this on my Facebook Timeline once again. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 6 #20

Does Trump want to start a second Civil War in the US? Irish_Dem Sep 6 #26

Yes! yellow dahlia Sep 6 #30

Putin wants to break up the US into parts. Irish_Dem Sep 6 #31

All roads lead to Moscow. yellow dahlia Sep 6 #32

Yep. Nancy P was 100% correct. Irish_Dem Sep 6 #33

He would love to. thought crime Sep 7 #43

Putin and Xi are part of the US civil war too, a big part of it. Irish_Dem Sep 8 #45

This might not get him the Nobel Peace Prize. n/t Chemical Bill Sep 6 #27

The pathetically transparent posturing in the Schlump post Pritzker shared is off the charts. ShazzieB Sep 6 #28

The horror.... The horror.... Blue Owl Sep 7 #38

That thing is no American president. Six117 Sep 7 #39

Since Trump is such a big fan of "Alphonse" Capone, Mblaze Sep 7 #40

He does have experience taking over islands, like Epstein's. twodogsbarking Sep 7 #41