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mr715

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19. They didn't pay attention to the past

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #15)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 12:06 PM

Sep 2025

In 2008, Obama thought Republicans would work with him.

In 2012, Obama thought Republicans would work with him.

In 2015, Obama thought Republicans would uphold historical norms regarding Supreme Court appointments.

In 2016, Hillary Clinton thought no one could possibly buy the shit Donald Trump was selling.

In 2020, Joe Biden thought the spell would break and Republicans would return to their senses.

In 2024, Kamala Harris thought the appeal of Liz Cheney was... uh... somehow a good idea.

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Harris: Reluctance to pressure Biden out of 2024 was 'recklessness' [View all] TheProle Sep 2025 OP

That much has become self-evident. Harris definitely not pulling her punches tritsofme Sep 2025 #1

That's one way to put it BeyondGeography Sep 2025 #2

Take a look at The Atlantic Article out today JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #3

I actually posted The Atlantic article this morning for those who may be interested... PunkinPi Sep 2025 #13

Biden's staff might have ambitions of their own Buzz cook Sep 2025 #26

Harris was in an impossible situation berniesandersmittens Sep 2025 #4

I don't believe Joe was in an impossible situation. Feel Good Inc Sep 2025 #5

Guess we'll eat/bash her too. Silent Type Sep 2025 #6

Joe Biden's ego was too huge Wanderlust988 Sep 2025 #7

Being discussed right now on Don Lemon live IcyPeas Sep 2025 #8

Yeah, two big mistakes Bidenand the Democratic party made indusurb Sep 2025 #9

Ideally Biden should have run in 2020 upon a platform of being a one-term president Justice Brandeis Sep 2025 #10

She's right and she was in an incredibly challenging situation. He made it worse unfortunately (& tragically) themaguffin Sep 2025 #11

Should have happened in 2023 Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #12

But wait... didn't she win? Didn't they change the vote totals using starlink magic? mr715 Sep 2025 #14

Decision makers at all levels did not have they eyes on the long term horizon bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #15

They didn't pay attention to the past mr715 Sep 2025 #19

Ive had 3 Democratic presidemts in my lifetime biocube Sep 2025 #16

I want to challenge this mr715 Sep 2025 #17

+1 leftstreet Sep 2025 #18

The problem is people with a mental decline often do not recognize their own deminshied capabilities. mackdaddy Sep 2025 #20

She's 100% correct. beaglelover Sep 2025 #21

I don't think most of Biden's staff liked Harris from the beginning. Xolodno Sep 2025 #22

Kamala Harris also very effectively mr715 Sep 2025 #25

I disagree with every word. I believe Biden would have been fine had Democrats supported. Demsrule86 Sep 2025 #23

Respectfully, mr715 Sep 2025 #24

I don't not believe for 1 minute Biden was ever running tied in New York standingtall Sep 2025 #29

He had no support to speak of and did not suffer from dementia. Demsrule86 Sep 2025 #30

He did (does) not have dementia mr715 Sep 2025 #31

Biden should've announced he would only be a one term president after winning awesomerwb1 Sep 2025 #27

Removing Biden was the bigger mistake. CentralMass Sep 2025 #28