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YoshidaYui

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110. I agree there is no

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:36 PM

Sep 2025

Excuse for violence, buts what is scary is some Republican gets it in his head its time for revenge and makes it open season on killing Democrats which is a possibility.

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Every single post here that appears to celebrate Charlie Kirk being shot makes DU look bad. [View all] highplainsdem Sep 2025 OP

Thank you . obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2025 #1

Yes. It's ugly. We shouldn't do that. MineralMan Sep 2025 #2

You're right orangecrush Sep 2025 #29

Correct. If ya can't say nothing good about a dead person..... 3Hotdogs Sep 2025 #126

"thoughts and prayers" Jack Valentino Sep 2025 #178

Malcolm Nance agrees - emphatically. soldierant Sep 2025 #142

He wasn't Assassinated JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #192

It is what it is. Klarkashton Sep 2025 #3

It is an extrajudicial killing. That's what it is Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #42

Because it is what it is. Klarkashton Sep 2025 #52

Shaming people probably won't change their behavior at this point. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #4

This is not about etiquette. This is about basic decency and humanity. Gun violence is not acceptable. highplainsdem Sep 2025 #9

Shaming people is not an effective strategy at this point. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #16

What then? Encouraging them? Politeness does not forbid criticism of others in the group. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #40

Yes BeneteauBum Sep 2025 #79

No and I don't celebrate gun violence biophile Sep 2025 #87

But charlie said it was, to protect 2A. niyad Sep 2025 #176

... but in this case it is rather ironic, since Charlie Kirk stated that Jack Valentino Sep 2025 #180

You don't have to be decent JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #193

I can remember when politics was more polite. Septua Sep 2025 #111

Years of brutal war waged against us has altered our persona. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #117

You are, of course, correct but if we stoop to their level, they will have won. TomSlick Sep 2025 #150

Yes of course. I do not mourn for evil being taken off the planet. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #157

The going JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #194

Maybe not but it still needs to be said that political violence against anyone is wrong. totodeinhere Sep 2025 #175

The PutinMAGAs are at war with America. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #189

Exactly JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #196

Positively Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #5

Oh well. Autumn Sep 2025 #6

... orangecrush Sep 2025 #7

The mocker of other deaths gets the Darwin Award. GreenWave Sep 2025 #78

Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #8

Yes. eShirl Sep 2025 #13

I hope you are not volunteering to be judge or jury or executioner. Extrajudicial violence is not the way.. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #41

Stay out of powerboats in the Carib! BidenRocks Sep 2025 #71

You are responding to some other post. I said nothing in this event about "being nice" or "turning the other cheek". . n Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #74

Sorry. BidenRocks Sep 2025 #85

Yes. WillowTree Sep 2025 #62

as Michael Moore said, some in this world only pay attention when it happens to them samsingh Sep 2025 #134

Absolutely Polybius Sep 2025 #135

I would rather he be alive JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #197

I don't want people thrown in Gitmo and tortured for extreme posts Polybius Sep 11 #219

I disagreed with his hatred. But murdering him was not the answer. totodeinhere Sep 11 #211

Is it wrong to point out that this man had, on multiple occasions, stated he was perfectly okay AZJonnie Sep 2025 #10

No. eShirl Sep 2025 #15

It IS fair. Facts matter. AZ8theist Sep 2025 #64

Indeed. He consented to his own murder TommyT139 Sep 2025 #82

Exactly, he at least in part orchestrated his own death Farmer-Rick Sep 2025 #113

did he actually *affirm* gun violence? ClaudetteCC Sep 2025 #139

He affirmed that gun deaths are inevitable in an 'armed society', as if it were a given that societies AZJonnie Sep 2025 #155

This. Why should we not be able to point to his own words when describing this situation. Iris Sep 2025 #161

The logical conclusion is that he doesn't want me to feel empathy for him being murdered AZJonnie Sep 2025 #165

I guess he didn't realize that empathy and sympathy are 2 different words Iris Sep 2025 #167

Thanks for your concern on the matter Samael13 Sep 2025 #11

Disagree. Charlie Kirk made Charlie Kirk look bad. Coventina Sep 2025 #12

This comment says it all. Iris Sep 2025 #162

We should remember Charlie Kirk by his own words. LetMyPeopleVote Sep 11 #217

Do I really need to control anonymous people on DU? Duncan Grant Sep 2025 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Random Person Sep 2025 #101

Does this include posting his own words on guns ? JI7 Sep 2025 #17

It's downright ForgedCrank Sep 2025 #18

Hate people who want to gleefully put you and I in a camp? paleotn Sep 2025 #92

Hyperbole and ForgedCrank Sep 11 #187

No JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #198

100% agree Yorkie Mom Sep 2025 #19

Agreed and it's particularly annoying when it is bite-sized, intense, and new-person OP lostnfound Sep 2025 #20

And yet, those who celebrate have no business calling other people haters. WillowTree Sep 2025 #21

Why? JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #199

Anyone celebrating murder SUCKS. eShirl Sep 2025 #22

That's why we have BidenRocks Sep 2025 #80

What you going to post here when SHIT STAIN gets his? Brainfodder Sep 2025 #23

when MFer dies of natural causes on his golden toilet, that's different. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #43

Nah, I think the celebrating is that ONE GASLIGHTING WALKING DICK MOVE is down, and MIGHT SCARE OTHERS! Brainfodder Sep 2025 #48

there's disagreement, then. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #50

Agree. BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #144

Agreed. whathehell Sep 2025 #24

Nope. QueerDuck Sep 2025 #25

we have this same convo every time a righty dies. obits r the 1st draft of history. mopinko Sep 2025 #26

Don't you understand that every politically-motivated shooting makes another one more likely? highplainsdem Sep 2025 #61

So political assassinations haven't been going on for 10,000 years? AZ8theist Sep 2025 #72

They have. And treating them as okay makes them happen more often. Charlie Kirk being shot makes highplainsdem Sep 2025 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #131

2 Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota have ALREADY been murdered. AZ8theist Sep 2025 #182

that's not the topic of this post. mopinko Sep 2025 #88

DU does not exist in a bubble. Posts here are read by RWers and quoted elsewhere. highplainsdem Sep 2025 #93

Democratic Underground is not on most folks feeds Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #169

Or Religious? or.....? vanlassie Sep 2025 #107

Whatever the motive was, the shooting still shouldn't be treated as okay - as something Kirk deserved. highplainsdem Sep 2025 #112

I think the responses here (over my 20 years) vanlassie Sep 2025 #136

Karma knows no politics pfitz59 Sep 2025 #27

Well I haven't seen any but if I do I senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2025 #30

He's putting troops in US cities and deporting people to Uganda SamuelTheThird Sep 2025 #33

Agree. It's unseemly. Patton French Sep 2025 #31

Three high school students in Evergreen CO were Hassler Sep 2025 #32

Exactly!!! tavernier Sep 2025 #73

This! mcar Sep 2025 #83

Exactly. I am almost running on empty with this administration and distributing my empathy appropriately is the last bit Iris Sep 2025 #168

Charlie Kirk was a horrible person Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2025 #34

I agree. QueerDuck Sep 2025 #36

I had no idea who he was Tree Lady Sep 2025 #46

The world is a better place. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2025 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #35

Agree. What they're saying, even though they writerJT Sep 2025 #37

Who is "they"? Who appointed you as the DU interpreter? live love laugh Sep 2025 #55

Bad at context? writerJT Sep 2025 #129

Help 👋🏽 live love laugh Sep 2025 #154

Are they in the room with you? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2025 #59

Sure you're not in favor of it. 👍 writerJT Sep 2025 #127

The only thing that shocks me is to learn that he had a wife and kid/s. Who would fuck that? QueerDuck Sep 2025 #38

Upon seeing their picture together Tree Lady Sep 2025 #49

The tooth-to-gum ratio is what really creeped me out... buzzycrumbhunger Sep 2025 #54

One of the many wicked witches is dead...and I condemn gun violence pbmus Sep 2025 #39

A celebration of the gun culture Kaleva Sep 2025 #44

As opposed to the fascists' celebrations... Jirel Sep 2025 #45

what celebrating? is asked in some posts Skittles Sep 2025 #97

Agree SuzyandPuffpuff Sep 2025 #47

I don't see my posts as Celebrating Charlie Kirk's demise Vogon_Glory Sep 2025 #51

so....gun violence is wrong Skittles Sep 2025 #98

Your conclusion doesn't follow Vogon_Glory Sep 2025 #105

judge jury and executioner Skittles Sep 2025 #141

Your argument still doesn't follow. Vogon_Glory Sep 2025 #164

Thought twice, thrice, frice, then posted what deserved to be posted. eppur_se_muova Sep 2025 #53

I don't know about inevitable Vogon_Glory Sep 2025 #56

Celebrating murder... Mike Nelson Sep 2025 #58

Total exaggeration and hyperbole. Why attempt to silence commentary? live love laugh Sep 2025 #60

nice straw man eShirl Sep 2025 #63

I just don't care that he died. Elessar Zappa Sep 2025 #65

Last thing on my mind... kxs Sep 2025 #66

Thank you! And welcome to DU. hamsterjill Sep 2025 #75

I don't see anyone "celebrating" Nigrum Cattus Sep 2025 #67

I'm not celebrating vercetti2021 Sep 2025 #68

And, I Simply Don't Care What It Looks Like ProfessorGAC Sep 2025 #69

Taking the high road all these years got US steamrolled by a fascist dictatorship. If anyone doesn't like ImNotGod Sep 2025 #70

I have sympathy for people that are suffering and dying because of tRUMP's policies and............. wolfie001 Sep 2025 #76

No. I take no joy in this murder mcar Sep 2025 #81

We all rail against fascism but quail at what it takes to end it. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2025 #84

I am mentally and physically getting ready for war. BidenRocks Sep 2025 #90

The plotters against Hitler all hung from piano wires wolfie001 Sep 2025 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2025 #86

Unfortunately, we (most of us here) live in ... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #89

What people say is usually unrelated to what they do. In fact, it's usually the opposite. usonian Sep 2025 #91

The natural world really doesn't need these awful humans mucking things up. Going out to my woods now... tazcat Sep 2025 #109

The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep usonian Sep 2025 #119

Thanks for the webcam tip! now watching....nt wiggs Sep 2025 #116

Wecams are at (and I forgot to give credits, for the first time ever) usonian Sep 2025 #121

be careful pointing that out Skittles Sep 2025 #95

Can I say that I support the kind of gun control laws that Charlie Kirk derided? viva la Sep 2025 #96

That's fine. I've made it clear that I despised him and what he stood for. But being okay with someone highplainsdem Sep 2025 #102

Well, I wouldn't do that anyway. viva la Sep 2025 #122

Really? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #145

It's giving JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #205

I will say this, markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #99

I don't see people celebrating. I see people refusing to pretend to mourn. Warpy Sep 2025 #100

zero sympathy for him moonshinegnomie Sep 2025 #103

Look bad to whom? Should we be worried it won't last another 24 years? Phentex Sep 2025 #104

I don't celebrate but FB47243 Sep 2025 #106

It's what we do ..... dumbcat Sep 2025 #108

I agree there is no YoshidaYui Sep 2025 #110

Yes, and that feeling it should be open season on Dems is more likely if Dems appear to think this highplainsdem Sep 2025 #114

Exactly YoshidaYui Sep 2025 #120

There have been more than a few people ..... dumbcat Sep 2025 #124

What scares me is if someone takes it YoshidaYui Sep 2025 #115

You don't think it's already dumbcat Sep 2025 #128

I hope it doesn't escalate YoshidaYui Sep 2025 #159

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2025 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #123

What apparently escapes you is that lots of Republicans see some Democrats and liberals as just highplainsdem Sep 2025 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #133

Whether or not you think it's a false equivalence, they don't think it is. We need rule of law. And rule highplainsdem Sep 2025 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #147

Blaming right-wing violence on Democrats and/or DU is laughable. TwilightZone Sep 2025 #140

to paraphrase Mark Twain Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2025 #130

You won't find anything like that from me Polybius Sep 2025 #132

Me either TheDemsshouldhireme Sep 2025 #143

What it is ain't exactly clear... GJGCA Sep 2025 #156

That might have been true in 1995. But Republicans have spent 30 years lying about what "liberals" say meadowlander Sep 2025 #138

I feel exactly as bad about him being shot as he would have felt about me being shot. Orrex Sep 2025 #146

That reminds me of a talk show host in the Northeast Just_Vote_Dem Sep 11 #200

Totally Agree! ybbor Sep 2025 #148

Behold! Here is the field where I grow my fvcks... QueerDuck Sep 2025 #149

He's a gun proponent who publicly said that a few deaths a year was "worth it" pnwmom Sep 2025 #151

Let's say nothing at all happened to *him* today... BamaRefugee Sep 2025 #152

Thank you, you are 100% correct wendyb-NC Sep 2025 #153

What is acceptable to you? Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #158

Good question. nt SunSeeker Sep 2025 #184

Good and FAIR question JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #206

I see your point iemanja Sep 2025 #160

I see something that makes DU look worse---a post with a heading that says DU posts are celebrating his death. Doodley Sep 2025 #163

Exactly. This OP defames DU and DUers. SunSeeker Sep 2025 #185

Well said! Doodley Sep 11 #212

+7 👏 Emile Sep 11 #209

Do you find it 'disgusting' that he's dead? (n.t.) Oeditpus Rex Sep 2025 #166

I'm not dancing on his grave planj07 Sep 2025 #170

Network glitch wiped my post. usonian Sep 2025 #171

It's disgusting. valleyrogue Sep 2025 #172

ABSOLUTELY!!! calimary Sep 2025 #173

The man was a piece of shit GenThePerservering Sep 2025 #174

I will keep my first amendment rights thank you very much !! stonecutter357 Sep 2025 #177

Black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot". mcar Sep 2025 #179

Yes, it does. CentralMass Sep 2025 #181

Reminding people of the hate Kirk spewed is not celebrating dflprincess Sep 2025 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 11 #220

A man was murdered. berniesandersmittens Sep 11 #186

Yes, exactly. nt Raine Sep 11 #188

Agree. betsuni Sep 11 #190

I don't care JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #191

I'm done giving a single fuck about decorum. TheBadWolf Sep 11 #195

Your concern is noted. Ferrets are Cool Sep 11 #201

If it was Democrat, you would see far worse coming from the right, and they are proud of it. doc03 Sep 11 #202

Should we take the high road again? Omnipresent Sep 11 #203

MSNBC agrees. orangecrush Sep 11 #204

Hmm JustAnotherGen Sep 11 #207

Yup orangecrush Sep 11 #208

He supported gun violence. travelingthrulife Sep 11 #210

Do not forget Melissa Hartman LetMyPeopleVote Sep 11 #213

I haven't forgotten. Nor have I forgotten the liberal Democratic values I've considered important since highplainsdem Sep 11 #215

So you are okay with trump and the MAGA types treating Melissa Hartman differently from Kirk? LetMyPeopleVote Sep 11 #216

No, of course I'm not okay with that. I don't think Charlie Kirk deserves any honors. But I posted this highplainsdem Sep 11 #218

As does every instance of sanctimony and self-righteousness Torchlight Sep 11 #214

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 12 #221