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tulipsandroses

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8. I will repeat what I said in other threads. I wish a better world for his kids than he wished for them.

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:48 PM

Sep 10

If a woman is raped, her rapist is murdered, is she supposed to have empathy or not speak ill of him?
Kirk inflicted devastating trauma - that will last for generations. I am not an "issue". My gay son is not an "issue." Our humanity is not just a debate or political disagreement.
Don't ask trauma victims to have empathy for the person/s inflicting trauma or police how people should process their trauma.

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Since Charlie Kirk was murdered are we supposed to pretend [View all] Bettie Sep 10 OP

Agree with you Bettie. choie Sep 10 #1

You are right Bettie, I agree. katmondoo Sep 11 #78

Let me put it this way malaise Sep 10 #2

You will get scolded if you don't... RockRaven Sep 10 #3

After seeing the things he said I think it would be JI7 Sep 10 #4

No, no and no Justice Brandeis Sep 10 #5

NO ONE here thinks he was a good man Skittles Sep 10 #6

It's pretty gross. writerJT Sep 10 #34

it's disgusting Skittles Sep 10 #43

How about you pull up those quotes and then post the equivalent comments you found here? 58Sunliner Sep 11 #80

Post removed Post removed Sep 11 #87

Sounds serious Torchlight Sep 11 #92

Is that happening? Cirsium Sep 10 #36

the shooter is a gun humping piece of utter fucking SHIT Skittles Sep 10 #42

Unlike right wingers Bettie Sep 10 #45

but that's not in your OP Skittles Sep 10 #47

Not everything I think is in every post Bettie Sep 10 #53

...... Skittles Sep 10 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author graycampervan Sep 10 #62

I don't see anyone who posted on DU supporting his execution. 58Sunliner Sep 11 #76

No one did Just_Vote_Dem Sep 11 #79

Thanks, Skittles TheProle Sep 11 #112

Act III, Scene I of Julius Caesar. Marc Antony's sililoquy. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 10 #7

And to be clear, my reaction to this wasn't happiness Bettie Sep 10 #11

Bettie I will toast a cup of your favorite beverage and dance with you Maru Kitteh Sep 10 #30

And someone will tell us that it is Bettie Sep 10 #46

It's not simply snark though... littlemissmartypants Sep 10 #59

I posted elsewhere Du916 Sep 10 #63

Antony's speech actually ended up praising Caesar... Feel Good Inc Sep 10 #33

Yes, that choice of speeches struck me as pretty odd, too. sl8 Sep 11 #95

Show me the good. returnee Sep 11 #75

I will repeat what I said in other threads. I wish a better world for his kids than he wished for them. tulipsandroses Sep 10 #8

This is very fair IMO. BannonsLiver Sep 10 #18

I agree with this, 100%. ShazzieB Sep 11 #109

Wrong site. The people you refer to are Republicons. You can't find a single one here on DU. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 10 #9

Thank you nt Tribetime Sep 10 #23

Yeah, but there's a shitload of "We Must Be NICE Democrats" scolding going on, here. Paladin Sep 11 #93

George Lincoln Rockwell comes to mind. Nobody Klarkashton Sep 10 #10

You got me to look it up (not hard). Killed by his own party member angry he was kicked out. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 10 #64

Yes it's hard to predict these things. Klarkashton Sep 11 #72

One should only say good of the dead... ZDU Sep 10 #12

I saw someone asking not to be gleeful about it Ponietz Sep 10 #13

Oh hell no! IzzaNuDay Sep 10 #14

He Reaped RobinA Sep 11 #107

He has my thoughts and prayers. nt doc03 Sep 10 #15

I haven't seen that. I've seen people saying grave dancing is crass EdmondDantes_ Sep 10 #16

How a person lives their life and how they die Aussie105 Sep 10 #17

Charlie Kirk was murdered???!! flvegan Sep 10 #19

Even some here are scolding mcar Sep 10 #20

Did I want him murdered? No. MurrayDelph Sep 10 #21

Murdering someone over their views is wrong LogDog75 Sep 10 #22

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" Orrex Sep 10 #25

... and "Patriotism is the first refuge of the scoundrel" -- Ambrose Bierce correcting Johnson or was it Boswell. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 10 #66

AH yes, empathy...Kirk was not a fan of that Bettie Sep 10 #69

It is not known at this time why Kirk was shot. Wiz Imp Sep 10 #39

I've said nothing of the kind. Orrex Sep 10 #70

Check again. I wasn't replying to you. Wiz Imp Sep 10 #71

Ah yes. My mistake. Sorry about that. Orrex Sep 11 #73

I hope that the pearl-clutchers are ready for the world-shaking celebrations when Trump finally dies Orrex Sep 10 #24

Longdog75...We will try to express your concerns when you meet your demise by their hands. 3rdGenAntifa Sep 10 #27

We are all responsible for our actions LogDog75 Sep 11 #116

I mean, he did say how much he loved Jesus johnnyfins Sep 10 #26

No iemanja Sep 10 #28

tots and pairs RainCaster Sep 10 #29

There was a school shooting today too that isn't getting much attention IronLionZion Sep 10 #31

He was a Nazi peice of shit! 3rdGenAntifa Sep 10 #32

Hell yeah! ALL of THIS!!!! live love laugh Sep 10 #44

Exactly The Grand Illuminist Sep 11 #98

You don't have toshed any tears or say anything nce about him. soldierant Sep 10 #35

I love Malcolm Nance 3rdGenAntifa Sep 10 #38

I haven't seen anyone praising the shooter here Bettie Sep 11 #81

Where has anyone praised or Bettie Sep 11 #84

He was a horrible man. Still, that should NEVER happen to ANYONE. Iggo Sep 10 #37

Agreed. 3rdGenAntifa Sep 10 #40

isn't it amazing Skittles Sep 10 #49

Spot on Bettie ornotna Sep 10 #41

I can't stop other people from rehabilitating Charlie Kirk EnergizedLib Sep 10 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 10 #50

If this was Trump, would we get the stern finger for our celebrations? miyazaki Sep 10 #51

He taunted Karma and Karma slapped back buzzycrumbhunger Sep 10 #52

Thank you! dflprincess Sep 10 #54

Agree! kellytore Sep 10 #55

Oh, boy. Are the morality police saying I should be sad? herding cats Sep 10 #56

There's no intrinsic law of the universe canetoad Sep 10 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Andy Canuck Sep 10 #60

And when a Democrat is shot the right wing openly samsingh Sep 10 #61

Yep....apparently, we're still stuck on Bettie Sep 10 #65

A friend was taking the moral high ground tonekat Sep 10 #67

We aren't like them We card when children are shot samsingh Sep 11 #85

That line list votes. While the sentiment is good samsingh Sep 11 #83

I didn't know much about him until today Mosby Sep 10 #68

He preached hate speech. Emile Sep 11 #74

We can bifurcate and compartmentalize no_hypocrisy Sep 11 #77

I'm not going to pretend that he was a good man Vogon_Glory Sep 11 #82

Nobody here is. valleyrogue Sep 11 #86

Really? maethe Sep 11 #90

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Sep 11 #101

Feeling Bad For The Kids, Sure ProfessorGAC Sep 11 #114

Dunno. He didn't give a shit if you, me or your kids get shot 3Hotdogs Sep 11 #100

And when Democrats, Progressives or kids are murdered in cold blood it gets a muted "meh" from the GOP. hadEnuf Sep 11 #88

Been on DU a while, I don't recall giving much space to ASSHOLES that die and this turd isn't RUSH reach level? Brainfodder Sep 11 #89

his ilk usually do not go this way. pansypoo53219 Sep 11 #91

Tots and pears, that is all I have to say, tots and pears. lark Sep 11 #94

I condemn both Charlie Kirk and Political Murder Blue Ozarks Sep 11 #96

Which is the greater evil? The Grand Illuminist Sep 11 #99

There's a tariff on tots and pears Marthe48 Sep 11 #97

Gun violence is gun violence..... Historic NY Sep 11 #102

He's a victim of what he Bettie Sep 11 #103

Kirk believed people getting shot and killed is the price we have to pay for 2A. Just collateral damage. Raftergirl Sep 11 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 11 #105

If I am sad evilhime Sep 11 #106

Well, that does seem to be the (MAGA) party line. PatrickforB Sep 11 #108

Fuck that noise. Raster Sep 11 #110

Ive seen a lot of the comments on Kirks Murder TheDemsshouldhireme Sep 11 #111

You are certainly welcome to put him on a pedestal and Bettie Sep 11 #113

Nope, disagreed with about everything he ever said. TheDemsshouldhireme Sep 11 #117

I do not condone anyone... oldsoldierfadingfast Sep 11 #115

The racist shite in this country think so ChicagoTeamster Sep 11 #118