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Prairie Gates

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33. Agreed
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:23 AM
Sep 2025

Bashing Arendt for her affair with Heidegger is very silly business.

That said, I wouldn't exactly say that he showed no Nazi signs in the 1920s. There's a good case to be made that much of his philosophy was proto-Nazi and certainly right wing all throughout that period.

Heidegger's writings on Jews are much better understood after the release of the so-called black notebooks. They are pretty bad. The major rub for Heidegger scholars is that he absolutely refused to apologize for any of it, even when begged to do so (by Arendt, among others!). Of course, he was barred from teaching after the war as part of the de-Nazification programs. One Heidegger scholar, on writing about the postwar period and the black notebooks, concludes simply that Heidegger was prideful and had a "hard heart" (see Krell, Ecstasy, Catastrophe: From Being and Time to the Black Notebooks). It seems an insufficient judgment.

In any case, I agree with the gist of what you're saying here, and the attempt to discredit Arendt's point on empathy by pointing to her relationship with Heidegger is...not great.

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Nope, can't do it. FirstLight Sep 2025 #1
Arendt is right. You're right. Decent human beings feel empathy for others, no matter who they are. sop Sep 2025 #2
..live by hatred, die by hatred.. thomski64 Sep 2025 #6
Nothing until we know more. marble falls Sep 2025 #3
Nope. I have no empathy for hate mongers and people who celebrate gun deaths Autumn Sep 2025 #4
Sorry, but Kirk was anti-empathy, so, I'm honoring his wishes in that regard. Coventina Sep 2025 #5
It is very empathetic of you to reflect his values back at him. RockRaven Sep 2025 #11
Hannah Arendt had a romance with a literal Nazi SamuelTheThird Sep 2025 #7
Yikes didn't realize that fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #24
I'd dispute that she 'enabled' him muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #30
Agreed Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #33
Arendt DEFENDED Heidegger post-war SamuelTheThird Sep 2025 #37
I wasn't calling her an enabler, but Kirk SamuelTheThird Sep 2025 #36
"I can't stand the word empathy. Actually I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage." muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #8
Yeah, well, Americans are not decent human beings. At least not a majority. RockRaven Sep 2025 #9
Disagree. I think there Still more Empathetic Americans than not... electric_blue68 Sep 2025 #13
Interesting that Mike Lee of Utah was the biggest asshole commenting on Hortman's killing Ponietz Sep 2025 #10
Hannah would hate Mark Twain Torchlight Sep 2025 #12
I have empathy for his family and the students mcar Sep 2025 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Sep 2025 #15
Did you weep for Pol Pot? dpibel Sep 2025 #16
+1 BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #21
Maybe conditional empathy ain't so bad, after all dpibel Sep 2025 #23
Been a tough day for you? W_HAMILTON Sep 2025 #20
Are we going to have this same discussion when Putin dies? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2025 #17
I don't have moral relativism about evil JCMach1 Sep 2025 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Random Person Sep 2025 #19
Judging by the comments I have seen today, it seems to be dying on DU. milestogo Sep 2025 #22
Sorry I'll sit this one out fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #25
That might be true but how did we get here? ecstatic Sep 2025 #26
Perhaps I'm missing something Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #27
that train has already left the station. nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #28
Well said ihavenoidea Sep 2025 #29
With all due respect to Hannah Arendt (and my respect for her is substantial) . . . . hatrack Sep 2025 #31
I don't think Arendt had any illusions about that Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #34
I wouldn't put it in hens' teeth territory, but judging by the last 20 years, it seems to be lacking in Americans . . . hatrack Sep 2025 #39
Hate speech deserves no empathy. Emile Sep 2025 #32
To me this is just the natural result of GREED and a few evil apples at the top doing ANYTHING/EVERYTHING to not SHARE? Brainfodder Sep 2025 #35
No empathy here. fshrink Sep 2025 #38
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