What the Polls Are Screaming to 'Mainstream' Democrats

[OldBaldy1701E]

60. I am not sure how I can offer facts about an action that really has no facts to it.

We can point out to other successful and/or failed attempts at altering a government or a society till we are both blue in the face.

You said yourself that you 'believe' your position is correct. You expect me to offer logic, facts, and evidence, and yet you use belief as your position. Unfortunately, 'belief' is not a basis for a 'certainty'. Plus, while we are in what can basically be described as 'uncharted waters', using belief as a basis of stability is not going to work. Ask anyone from the Dark Ages.

I have been told I was being negative because I have been saying that things like what is currently happening with ICE and with the D.C. situation would happen. I have been told I am being negative because I am not on board with just returning things to the way they were before that orange gibbon got elected the first time. Which is absolutely imperative for those who are already in the 'clique', so to speak, to remain there. My position is that the 'clique' needs to go. Now. All of it. However, most here do not share this position. Mainly because there is really only one way to remove that clique and it would involve some hardship. So, we won't even consider it. We'd rather suffer the hardships of being ruled by a fascist regime than suffer a more controlled situation by devaluing the thing that has created this horror show so that we can remove the stranglehold that the wealthy have on power as well as certain other aspects of our society. Which is also very odd to myself. I was not aware that Americans were so into Masochism. I would think that being the ones controlling the change would be better than trying to pick up the pieces after an out of control change. Maybe that is just me.

The 'world' is not what is bad. Humans are the issue. But, even if it is not 'as bad', I do not see the wisdom in deciding not to improve things when given the opportunity.

And, it appears that I am in the minority on that one as well.