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muriel_volestrangler

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35. "not been verified by A.T.F. analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence"
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:45 PM
Sep 2025
In an earlier post, we included a quote from Nancy Mace referring to reporting from the Wall Street Journal that “transgender, anti-fascist things that were engraved in the ammunition and in the rifle that was apprehended” in the investigation into Kirk’s killing.

According to a preliminary internal report circulated inside the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, federal and local officials recovered ammunition with the rifle that appeared to be engraved with statements “expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology”.

But the New York Times reports that “a senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation cautioned that report had not been verified by A.T.F. analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence, and might turn out to have been misread or misinterpreted. In fast-moving investigations, such status reports are not made public because they often contain a mixture of accurate and inaccurate information.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-shot-latest-news-updates-utah-university-donald-trump?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-68c2fa4b8f086519d32701af#block-68c2fa4b8f086519d32701af

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Sure... CentralMass Sep 2025 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #2
This alleged information has been picked up now, D. Spaulding Sep 2025 #3
Better than the terrible Crowder source Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #7
So, wouldn't that little bit of information tell you the shooter was a repug? OLDMDDEM Sep 2025 #4
I don't know what to believe with this administration. D. Spaulding Sep 2025 #9
Good point. OLDMDDEM Sep 2025 #12
ALL pathological liars so don't believe anything you hear vapor2 Sep 2025 #30
I am going with fake information. John1956PA Sep 2025 #5
Yah, sure, you betcha... MineralMan Sep 2025 #6
How convenient! I would have expected the cartridges to have the shooters name and address on them. Whyisthisstillclose Sep 2025 #8
I always engrave political slogans on my cartridges Ocelot II Sep 2025 #13
Didn't the Minnesota church shooter last month do just that? MichMan Sep 2025 #19
That guy left his intentions and slogans everywhere. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #20
That's probably what gave the clowns in this admin D. Spaulding Sep 2025 #22
On the magazines, yes NickB79 Sep 2025 #24
Luigi Mangione also did the same MichMan Sep 2025 #42
Crap like this will be appearing on every single right-wing rag of a website. hadEnuf Sep 2025 #10
I agree, but it's rather frightening to think the administration D. Spaulding Sep 2025 #16
"If this info is BS they deliberately planted and leaked, then we are in serious trouble in this country. " markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #31
Anti-fascist ideology? You mean.... JustBeGood Sep 2025 #11
Transparent phony evidence. Coventina Sep 2025 #14
This is how I know JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #15
Fabricated Evidence to ban Transgender Burnnotice Sep 2025 #17
After Sandy Hook, I have assumed everything I hear from ANY right wing source is 100% bat guano. Moostache Sep 2025 #18
FAKE! Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #21
One engraved cartridge said, "This was done by the entire radical left who are all enemies of america and want a still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #23
I hate it when that happens mike_c Sep 2025 #40
So the shooter took the time to engrave Deminpenn Sep 2025 #25
I guess it's possible, but so much of that allegation D. Spaulding Sep 2025 #28
had time to wrap gun in a towel? Kali Sep 2025 #26
This is better than finding an Oswald, gab13by13 Sep 2025 #27
tRump turned the JD into a keystone cops reality TV show, I wouldn't trust anything these fascist pigs say. nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #29
FFS. if you're going to do an assassination, don't engrave the cartridges. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #32
Unless youre a rightie and want to tie this to the left Fullduplexxx Sep 2025 #33
or you're a lunatic. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #34
"not been verified by A.T.F. analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Midnight Writer Sep 2025 #36
Reporting this seems awfully stupid Historic NY Sep 2025 #37
If a trans person has that kind of rifle skill maxrandb Sep 2025 #38
this part makes me wonder if it's a hoax mike_c Sep 2025 #39
Total bullshit orangecrush Sep 2025 #41
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