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jgmiller

(695 posts)
12. Multiple things can be true at the same time
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:17 PM
Sep 2025

Kirk could be someone who spreads lies and hate and at the same time he could be a skilled debater that knew how to talk to youth and he could be one that lets both sides talk. However regarding that last point he only allowed it so that he could "prove them wrong" and thereby legitimize and amplify his version of the world.

After thinking about it I really think the reason so many in power on the right are shaken by this and rasing him to the level of a god is that in many of their minds he was the heir apparent of MAGA. Vance can pretend he can run MAGA but he has the charisma of a rock and so do most of the others or they are just act even crazier than Trump. Kirk because of his skill and his ability to build a huge following meant he would have been a powerful force in 2032 if he decided to run.

I heard some on the right compare this to the JFK assasination and I actually think for the right that's exactly what this is. It's the death of a dream they had just started to imagine could come true.

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I'm pretty convinced odins folly Sep 2025 #1
I agree that most GOP will only care in a performative way. TheProle Sep 2025 #6
The third option is the one I'm most worried about. Alice B. Sep 2025 #9
And that IS literally the WHOLE ball game. Miles Archer Sep 2025 #11
And, not to mention odins folly Sep 2025 #13
Many of them disfigured by plastic surgery in pursuit of the "Mar-a-Lago Look" Miles Archer Sep 2025 #21
K&R UTUSN Sep 2025 #2
Mollify is right malaise Sep 2025 #3
Kick dalton99a Sep 2025 #4
K&R (I see she corrected the Proud Boy error) n/t demmiblue Sep 2025 #5
I've always admired Joan Walsh -- too bad I haven't seen much of her for awhile. nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2025 #7
Kirk reverted. It is reported that on Sep 8, Kirk was interviewed by Megyn Kelly and pushed for release then. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #8
The interview was on July 11, 2025, not September 8th. There is a tonne of disinfo being pushed on social media about the Celerity Sep 2025 #15
Good job tracking this down. Thank you. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #19
Rec. progressoid Sep 2025 #10
Multiple things can be true at the same time jgmiller Sep 2025 #12
Terrific post, jgmiller! calimary Sep 2025 #17
I agree with calimary. Great post. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #20
See Doktor Zoom's column on wonkette.com today. Paladin Sep 2025 #14
That person was a dangerous white nationalist BaronChocula Sep 2025 #16
I guess Klein knows nothing about Kirk's "Professor Watchlist"? GoCubsGo Sep 2025 #18
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