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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:01 AM Dec 2012

Mental illness isn't the cause of mass shootings, let's just make that clear [View all]

People without mental illness commit mass shootings.

People without mental illness engage in domestic violence against their family members and also murder their family members.

Some mass killings or shootings are committed by people who have mental illnesses.

But mental illness is so common and so broad, it's like saying that people with skin commit murders --it's meaningless. Mental illness is as common as depression or other problems and challenges.

The discussion in the media and even here of late, suggests that if we can just identify those with mental illnesses, we'll simply know who is a danger to us. But we won't.

Identifying and treating those who deal with mental illness is a wonderful and humane idea, unless the aim is simply some fishing expedition aimed at institutionalizing or imprisoning such people in order to avoid any restrictions on guns --the "mentally ill" will be the scapegoats in such a scenario).

If one identifies *all* those with mental illnesses, you'll simply get a huge list of people, but that list won't tell you anything about who is safer with a gun and who isn't.

We need to make sure, especially in this community (where it should be known better) that we are not scapegoating, nor allowing the broad category of "mentally ill" to be blamed for murderous things and tendencies and especially not allow them to be used by special interest groups to divert restrictions on guns.

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If you are a person of color, especially a Muslim and you shoot someone, you are a terrorist JDPriestly Dec 2012 #1
Try being a black man who carries a gun much of the time ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #4
We are obviously talking about prejudice. Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #14
The flip side of that is ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #2
i agree with this. one must have something wrong in ones head to do stuff like this loli phabay Dec 2012 #3
So all people with mental illness is to blame? Neoma Dec 2012 #5
Because that is what he said?? DapperDon Dec 2012 #7
Put it this way. Neoma Dec 2012 #8
I don't think that is the point. DapperDon Dec 2012 #10
Did you miss the posts calling for mentally ill people Confusious Dec 2012 #20
I did miss those posts. DapperDon Dec 2012 #40
Stop this right now! _Liann_ Dec 2012 #12
Because apparently I'm one of those, "crazy evil people." Neoma Dec 2012 #15
you're not and that poster doesn't know what she's talking about CreekDog Dec 2012 #19
Consider the source: UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #28
Not in my opinion, but the concept gives comfort to many ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #22
I agree to an extent. DapperDon Dec 2012 #6
Simply NOT TRUE. _Liann_ Dec 2012 #9
Thank you Dr Frist for diagnosing Mrs. Lanza, how many visits did you have with her? CreekDog Dec 2012 #11
Evolution is an intelligence test. Losers don't leave their genes to carry on. _Liann_ Dec 2012 #13
so you are saying you did diagnose Nancy Lanza but w/o any knowledge of her? CreekDog Dec 2012 #16
You seriously misunderstand evolution Lordquinton Dec 2012 #30
And you seriously misunderstand Mental Illness. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #32
Me? Or the poster I was responding to? Lordquinton Dec 2012 #34
Is that so? davidthegnome Dec 2012 #33
"Losers". I believe this word and the words and philosophy hidded behind it speak volumes. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #36
Oh, there have been PLENTY of "losers" who've procreated. You are being absurd. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #41
What degree do you have to make the diagnosis that began this thread? Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #17
Much of what you have posted is "Simply NOT TRUE" ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #23
oh, for god's sake. yeah, and homosexuality used to be in that book, and now pre-menstrual HiPointDem Dec 2012 #24
You do realize your hypothesis is based on rumor and speculation. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #26
Thank you- This thread is helping cbrer Dec 2012 #18
k&r avaistheone1 Dec 2012 #21
While it is true that not all people Jenoch Dec 2012 #25
+100 nt napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #27
This post is sort of disgusting. yewberry Dec 2012 #29
Another one Lordquinton Dec 2012 #31
More than sort of disgusting. davidthegnome Dec 2012 #35
Mass shootings would not happen as much if guns were better regulated. Also note that Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #37
I think the phrase "mental illness" covers a lot of ground. renie408 Dec 2012 #38
It's getting tedious to reiterate, so "What This Guy Said": Denninmi Dec 2012 #39
There is one element common to every mass shooting. Every one of them. 99Forever Dec 2012 #42
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