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hack89

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14. I read and understood your OP

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:14 AM

Dec 2012

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just think it is based on a flawed premise you set up by minimizing defensive gun uses and exaggerating the dangers.

There are tens of millions of guns owners. There are tens of millions of reasons why people own guns.

I have a safe full of guns - they have nothing to do with fear. It has nothing to do with domination over others. My family and I enjoy competitive target shooting. When not in use the guns are locked up. I live in a very safe area so there is no need for a gun for self defense.

You are not advancing your cause by broad brush attempts to label people and minimize their concerns and interests. I refuse to go into that neat little box you have constructed for me. If you want my help in forging some meaningful gun control laws I would suggest that insulting me is not the best way to start.

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The self defense myth. [View all] Flabbergasted Dec 2012 OP

Kick Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #1

Why does someone have to die for it to be a successful self defense incident? hack89 Dec 2012 #2

Just fire the gun in the air and it will scare off 99% of burglers davidn3600 Dec 2012 #3

That is both dangerous and illegal as hell hack89 Dec 2012 #4

Happened here in July, 2011 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #6

what goes up must come down melm00se Dec 2012 #5

Whoosh. Nt Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #13

I read and understood your OP hack89 Dec 2012 #14

That is not the point either. I'm not trying to insult anyone. Nor am I saying that guns don't Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #15

Makes sense and ban spare tires at the same time. nt jody Dec 2012 #7

Op is a sociological premise not an anti-gun position. Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #9

Say whut! An individual's right to keep and bear arms for self-defense is a "sociological premise"? jody Dec 2012 #10

Your twisting my words. I'm not suggesting anything about gun control at all. I'm just suggesting Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #11

Flabbergasted I would give my life and all I own to prevent another Sandy Hook Tragedy and all jody Dec 2012 #12

I've given your reply a lot of thought. Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #16

Sorry if I've already called this to your attention. If not, please consider my thread below. jody Dec 2012 #17

If you're serious about discussing "the psychology and sociology of guns", please become a regular jody Dec 2012 #18

I agree. gulliver Dec 2012 #8