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Hekate

(100,135 posts)
19. Talk about a throwback to the Old Country, Colonial times, whatever part of history you want
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 01:11 PM
Sep 2025

The “officer class” were upper crust, didn’t need to go to any military academy, had an upper crust education, and were expected to know “how to lead” It worked for centuries, after all. Until it didn’t.

As for civil service (invented by the advanced culture of China, see below for dates) third-world countries have always found patronage works well enough for hiring and promotion, that and bribery.

I think these Lt. Colonels were appointed at the garbage-strewn intersection of the wreckage of American meritocracy for both the civil service and the military.

I think I’ll break into a new version of “Tradition! “

Niyad — we used to be better than this in the modern world, and proud of it.


* The concept of selecting officials by merit rather than by birth began to be used in China as early as the Han Dynasty (206 BCE – 220 CE), but the modern written imperial examination system for civil service was formalized during the Sui Dynasty (581–618 CE). This system became fully developed under the Tang and Song dynasties and provided a merit-based pathway for entering the bureaucracy for nearly 1,300 years, lasting until its abolition in 1905.

Apologies that I am using the so-called AI Overview that popped up, but it accords with my memory of my studies. The Chinese did it first, by a very long shot. But by the time they dropped it in 1905, their empire had rotted and was ripe for revolution in a big way. Let that be a lesson to the rest of us.

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White men? Walleye Sep 2025 #1
Three are. niyad Sep 2025 #3
A slap in the face to every man and woman who has served.. Beowulf42 Sep 2025 #16
Exactly. niyad Sep 2025 #21
Yes, I know, they are doing that to a lot of experienced hard-working people. For no real reason, disgusting Walleye Sep 2025 #23
It is not uncommon for fine officers to retire at LTC with over twenty years of dedicated service. TomSlick Sep 2025 #33
Activate them to go fight crime in the cities. Norrrm Sep 2025 #2
At least then they might be useful. Maybe. niyad Sep 2025 #7
I realize that markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #4
Terrifying, is it not? niyad Sep 2025 #8
I think you are right to be worried. Someone or some ones appear to have a grand plan that LoisB Sep 2025 #5
Then they should hire advisors from the Ukrainian Army. niyad Sep 2025 #6
Interesting questions. The answers, of course, will never be known by "we, the people". LoisB Sep 2025 #9
Sadly, you are quite correct. niyad Sep 2025 #10
Here is a link to the article. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #11
Thank you for the link. There were several citations when I googled it, niyad Sep 2025 #13
correct me if im wrong but if they are now lt col's moonshinegnomie Sep 2025 #12
I have no idea, but what a great question! niyad Sep 2025 #14
In general, only when they're on active duty. sl8 Sep 2025 #17
couldnt in theory a new president order them to active duty? moonshinegnomie Sep 2025 #22
Probably. nt sl8 Sep 2025 #24
Thank you. niyad Sep 2025 #29
More on it at link appleannie1 Sep 2025 #15
Thank you. niyad Sep 2025 #30
What the hell? LudwigPastorius Sep 2025 #18
Talk about a throwback to the Old Country, Colonial times, whatever part of history you want Hekate Sep 2025 #19
Just like the Civil War. Aristus Sep 2025 #20
It was pointed out in one of the June threads that this was a Biden administration initiative: sl8 Sep 2025 #25
Thank you for those links and information. niyad Sep 2025 #31
Do they take an oath to the Constitution? Deuxcents Sep 2025 #26
I would not bet that they did, unless I saw and heard actual video, niyad Sep 2025 #32
I don't understand this Wifes husband Sep 2025 #27
Access is a good guess. niyad Sep 2025 #28
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