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crimycarny

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29. I didn't like Hillary at first either

Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:11 AM

Sep 17

I remember thinking the same about Hillary when she ran against Obama. I didn’t like her at all. Then I saw her in what (I think?) was the first debate with Obama and I was blown away by the vast knowledge she had of almost every topic. I still didn’t like her all that much though, but I had to respect her qualifications.

It was a couple of years after Obama had won when I saw her being interviewed. I can’t remember the show. 60 minutes? 20/20? Hillary made a comment about how she would observe her husband’s ease in connecting to voters, and how she saw the same qualities in Obama. She said she was always jealous of that because it wasn’t as easy for her. She mentioned having to learn early on to hold in her emotions as she was often the only female in a class/job dominated by males. She felt she couldn’t show emotion, and got so used to that it was hard for her to let down her guard.

She didn’t say all of that in a self-pitying way. Just a recognition of some areas that she wished she was better in. It gave me some insight and understanding. It had to be hard to walk that tightrope.

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Gavin Newsom--are Dems going to once again let the perfect be the enemy of the good? [View all] crimycarny Sep 16 OP

I agree with you, my dear crimycarny! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 16 #1

Well we've got that Charlie Kirk nonsense out of the way. Keepthesoulalive Sep 16 #2

I enjoy Newsom's top tier Trump trolling Fiendish Thingy Sep 16 #3

He's actually good at getting his policy positions out too crimycarny Sep 16 #6

What do you mean by "effectively"? What is the measurable effect that is remarkable? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 16 #8

Here's an example crimycarny Sep 16 #10

Okay so what I get from your response is that you like his tweets and the announcements from his press office. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 16 #12

What's "effective" about any other Democratic candidate so far? crimycarny Sep 16 #14

Newsom has had fewer challenges since he has Dem supermajorities in the legislature Fiendish Thingy Sep 16 #15

Hillary Clinton was an absolute warrior crimycarny Sep 16 #16

And, So Was Kamala.. A Fighter! Cha Sep 16 #23

Yes! crimycarny Sep 17 #31

Yes, Revenge and a Lot of Buyers Cha Sep 17 #33

It isn't Newsom who has changed - it is you. Ms. Toad Sep 16 #4

I'm with you on Newscom, Ms. Toad... Mark.b2 Sep 16 #5

If he's the nomnee, I will vote for him. ananda Sep 16 #9

For sure, I would too. nt Mark.b2 Sep 16 #11

But we need to win the election crimycarny Sep 16 #7

If they actually follow in his footsteps - I won't be voting for them in the primary. Ms. Toad Sep 16 #18

I don't think Newsom acts like Trump crimycarny Sep 17 #30

Of course he is. He is mimicking Trump, and using that mimicry to cast Trump-like insults Ms. Toad Sep 17 #36

No, I haven't changed crimycarny Sep 16 #13

So, you have changed. Ms. Toad Sep 16 #17

LOL so who do you like? Millionaire Bernie? awesomerwb1 Sep 16 #26

I didn't like Hillary at first either crimycarny Sep 17 #29

I'm willing to accept a flawed politician crimycarny Sep 17 #32

TY.. I don't think you've "changed".. Cha Sep 16 #24

Sounds like you're still fighting "The Last War". BurnDoubt Sep 16 #19

When you see people do that, just call them MAGA enablers. W_HAMILTON Sep 16 #20

I didn't like his French Laundry screwup but I like his attack mode JanMichael Sep 16 #21

I felt the same as you until the past few days---- Jack Valentino Sep 16 #22

Maybe Newsom is simply the fighter we need now (before midterms) and it will be someone else in 2028 crimycarny Sep 16 #28

Newsom's tweets are objectively effective in at least two ways. summer_in_TX Sep 16 #25

I have a few things to say in response to a few posts here. Buddyzbuddy Sep 16 #27

Perfect summary crimycarny Sep 17 #34

Excellent! Buddyzbuddy Sep 17 #35

Democrats won't. The anti-establishment pseudos will follow the usual both sides insult script to bash candidates. betsuni Sep 17 #37

He won't win the DU primary, not that it amounts to anything. BannonsLiver Sep 17 #38

I submit, 2028 is a long time off. Gore1FL Sep 17 #39