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Wiz Imp

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64. you claimed "It was obtained via subpoena from Discord."
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:17 PM
Sep 2025

There is no evidence at this point which confirms that. Your position seems to be that the texts as published have already been legally determined to be true.

Meanwhile, constitutional attorney KrisAnne Hall said sharing the texts could damage the trial because the testimony and evidence has not yet been vetted by the court.


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IS UTAH TRYING TO LOSE THIS CASE?! - UT v Robinson

I just watched Utah Prosecutor Jeff Gray publicly read aloud private text messages, interviews, and alleged confessions during a press conference - BEFORE TRIAL - about UT v. Tyler Robinson (Charlie Kirk Shooting Case)
He even referred to them at the press conference as FACTS. Are you kidding me?

Oversharing inculpatory evidence like this is a HUGE constitutional no-no.

Even the slap on of a vague disclaimer like “we want a fair trial,” the damage is already done.

Also, the statements by Gray of "We will not be speaking to the press during the trial" AFTER READING ACTUAL TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN VETTED BY THE COURT, is a lame and empty attempt to cover this massive violation of
= due process, 4th Amendment, 5th Amendment, etc
= the presumption of innocence,
= and the integrity of the entire case.

This is not just an error in strategy, this is potentially a legally destructive action.

We will see motions to:
Suppress tainted jury pools
Request sequestration or gag orders
Move for change of venue
Seek exclusion of evidence due to taint or even
Mistrial!
Ultimately, the defense may assert reversible error on appeal if the court fails to act

It is NOT a subject up to interpretation. There is long standing case law on this.

The Supreme Court in Sheppard v. Maxwell, 384 U.S. 333 (1966) reversed Sheppard’s conviction, ruling 7–2 that he was denied a fair trial due to a failure to shield the proceedings from prejudicial media coverage.

Majority Opinion (Justice Clark):
The Court held that while freedom of the press is essential, it must not override a defendant’s right to a fair trial.

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This pretty much sums it up. WarGamer Sep 2025 #1
I'm going to guess that from the way he mentioned his dad turning MAGA bigtree Sep 2025 #3
A quote from roommates family: WarGamer Sep 2025 #6
Lance Twiggs fully cooperated and is not on trial. Quiet Em Sep 2025 #16
Those statements are necessary to understand the motive of Robinson. WarGamer Sep 2025 #17
They don't explain his motivations. Quiet Em Sep 2025 #19
Pretty much explains motive. Worse, it gives GOPers a bit more ammunition for their distorted view it's "radical left." Silent Type Sep 2025 #4
That would seem to contradict most of the posts here the last several days MichMan Sep 2025 #11
yup... WarGamer Sep 2025 #12
Par for the course I suppose. MichMan Sep 2025 #24
We still don't know Tyler's political leanings, Quiet Em Sep 2025 #39
a minor nit to pick RussBLib Sep 2025 #63
That sums up the mother's rationale, not Tyler's. Quiet Em Sep 2025 #13
This isn't going to end well indusurb Sep 2025 #2
That's the disturbing problem with today's revelations. Silent Type Sep 2025 #5
why? bigtree Sep 2025 #7
Why what? indusurb Sep 2025 #8
fuck them bigtree Sep 2025 #14
Lot of recent chatter on Twitter along those lines Shrek Sep 2025 #18
"I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out." BeyondGeography Sep 2025 #9
I hope the roommate is left alone and the identity is kept secret fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #10
I didn't see it in the press conference today SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #21
Already identified the day of the arrest. Daily Mail has name and pictures. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #29
Looks like Trump's gatekeepers are celebrating. Kingofalldems Sep 2025 #15
... WarGamer Sep 2025 #25
I seriously doubt that most people reason like Trump and the right want us to bigtree Sep 2025 #26
Kash Patel wrote that bs in my opinion. Kids don't text like that. 1WorldHope Sep 2025 #20
How do they text? n/t Shrek Sep 2025 #28
Not in 50-word paragraphs, that's for sure. tinrobot Sep 2025 #42
Well, they're not texting about silly stuff - they're talking about the gravest subject imaginable - capital murder. NT Midwestern Democrat Sep 2025 #51
It's not anything close to how 20 year olds communicate tinrobot Sep 2025 #53
That's a charging document. It was presented in court. It was obtained via subpoena from Discord. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #31
So Robinson was texting via Discord? leftstreet Sep 2025 #35
It's on a direct message on the Discord app. At least that's what I first read. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #41
Waiting for a post stating that Musk planted it over star link MichMan Sep 2025 #36
LOL! I'm waiting for a post that blames Chuck Schumer! LeftInTX Sep 2025 #40
The charging document does not mention the source Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #43
It says discord LeftInTX Sep 2025 #44
That's not the charging document Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #46
Affidavit of Probable Cause LeftInTX Sep 2025 #47
you claimed "It was obtained via subpoena from Discord." Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #64
I'm familiar with evidence rules and it is best to present as such during discovery. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #65
That's John Barron's work if I've ever seen it still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #45
I don"t know if it is me, but the dialogue between the two, sounds like it came from a 40's B Movie or a Hallmark movie debm55 Sep 2025 #22
Y'all............. OneGrassRoot Sep 2025 #23
I agree with you. debm55 Sep 2025 #27
It's a court document, not a media thing. Obtained from Discord server via a subpoena LeftInTX Sep 2025 #32
I have a hard time believing this is real Diraven Sep 2025 #30
Voice to text. That's what my son does. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #33
If it's voice to text Diraven Sep 2025 #38
Discord is weird Lurker Deluxe Sep 2025 #48
Some of the language is weird though Mosby Sep 2025 #49
It's the words used as well.. OneGrassRoot Sep 2025 #50
Yup and I believed right from start this was the motive DemocracyWorks Sep 2025 #34
It would have made sense fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #54
I wonder who planted this "evidence" Bluestocking Sep 2025 #37
it reads like they staged it to give the impression... Mark.b2 Sep 2025 #52
I am Fawny Sep 2025 #55
Awfully random, why do you think "a black woman"? marble falls Sep 2025 #58
Welcome to DU Fawny! Yes, an inside job. flying_wahini Sep 2025 #60
Why are we still talking about a killing that happened over a week ago? Emile Sep 2025 #56
We can do both Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2025 #57
I think the Discord messages are an alibi for the roommate. joshcryer Sep 2025 #59
These text messages or whatever they are are bizarre. yardwork Sep 2025 #61
Please tell me you took a second look and don't believe any of this nonsense. roscoeroscoe Sep 2025 #62
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