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Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
21. So we force that. If the president ignores the shutdown
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 12:52 PM
Sep 2025

He can’t make workers work without pay. Many will quit once furloughed long enough.

Meanwhile anything the President does to get around it would be immediately challenged in court. He would lose initially, but of course, it will eventually make it to SCOTUS. How fast depends on how it’s handled in the lower courts. Trump cannot simply go straight to the Supreme Court, the Judicial still has some semblance of normal function at the lower levels.

It is criminal for any agency heads/managers to continue as if there is no shutdown and many will not break the law. So for at least 1-3 months, federal workers will go without pay, forcing many to quit and look for work elsewhere.

We are already short staffed on ATC, and this will compound air travel issues and the economy if suddenly, several walk off the job (again you cannot force people to work without pay).

There is an old rule in rebellions: sabotage any way you can. We are there.



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i agree!!! samnsara Sep 2025 #1
Shut. It. Down! Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #9
Let the Republicans shut it down Bobstandard Sep 2025 #2
The politics do NOT matter anymore Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #3
Remembering when repukes shut it down and they were rewarded for it in the following election ImNotGod Sep 2025 #6
I wrote to my Senators and Representative Chemical Bill Sep 2025 #4
The US has around 3 million civilian federal employees Heidi Sep 2025 #5
Hmmmm it seems the choice is Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #8
Aren't you special in your zeal to make a point at the peril of Heidi Sep 2025 #10
Aren't you special in your zeal to make a point at the peril Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #11
Well you get on with your bad self, keyboard warrior. Heidi Sep 2025 #13
Oh, don't worry, this isn't just a keyboard warrior effort Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #16
You act like Democrats are causing this. mtngirl47 Sep 2025 #24
I agree, Democrats should be refusing to cooperate on anything Walleye Sep 2025 #26
No, I only asked that civilian federal workers' ability Heidi Sep 2025 #33
Probably going to have to house about 30 of my tenants.... mtngirl47 Sep 2025 #36
Thank you for putting your money where your mouth is. Heidi Sep 2025 #37
Only two options, eh? Torchlight Sep 2025 #31
SHUT! IT! DOWN! Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #35
That's up to the majority party. If it goes down, Emile Sep 2025 #7
They need to make some demands of the administration crud Sep 2025 #12
Totally agree. Heidi Sep 2025 #14
That is totally the wrong thinking Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #17
The messaging is important crud Sep 2025 #18
So we force that. If the president ignores the shutdown Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #21
It might play out the way you have described... crud Sep 2025 #22
I agree, keep throwing monkey wrenches into their bad works Walleye Sep 2025 #28
Yep. Condition for keeping it running is Trump and Vance and his cabinet have to go. lees1975 Sep 2025 #15
I'm afraid they'll bail them out... again uponit7771 Sep 2025 #19
That's why we need to put the pressure on them... Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #40
I Wrote Yesterday Mr.Bee Sep 2025 #20
agreed, shut it down. AllaN01Bear Sep 2025 #23
What about Social Security and Defense spending? kentuck Sep 2025 #25
I recall in past shut down scenarios it was said that SS is exempt, Sogo Sep 2025 #34
That is true. Both defense and SS are exempted Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #38
Yes. Do it! OLDMDDEM Sep 2025 #27
Shut it down, but with a specific purpose. That purpose should be very focused. Restoring the ACA subsidies, lostincalifornia Sep 2025 #29
Chumbawamba - "Give the Anarchist a Cigarette" DJ Synikus Makisimus Sep 2025 #30
It's on them. They own the House, Senate and the WH. Katinfl Sep 2025 #32
Kick! ananda Sep 2025 #39
Yes. We can't stop these sadistic psychopaths with strongly worded letters. Initech Sep 2025 #41
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