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LeftInTX

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3. I still don't know if he can do this legally.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 03:26 PM
Sep 2025

Now he can do what they did in the 60's and he's already doing it. He's already calling people names and belittling people and intimidating anyone who does not agree with him. (Look at ABC and Jimmy Kimmel)

He can designate certain groups as "gangs", if they engage in frequent criminal misconduct, such as the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club, but of course it doesn't sound as cool as "terrorist".

Elm Fork is an antifascist gun toting group who had some members attack an ICE facility back in July.

Gifted article from WaPo
What the law says as Trump tries to designate ‘antifa’ a terrorist group
The U.S. has no legal way to designate domestic terrorist groups. Experts raised fears of political repression because “antifa” is a broad ideology, not a group.


Can Trump designate antifa a terrorist organization?
There is no legal mechanism in the United States for labeling purely domestic organizations as terrorist groups. For Trump to follow through on his social media declaration, his administration would need to create such a mechanism. The Trump administration has shown a willingness to push legal boundaries in ways that many experts hadn’t expected, and such an effort would surely draw challenges, given the Constitution’s broad First Amendment protections for free association and speech.

“The president does not have legal authority to designate a domestic group as terrorists for good reason, as any such designation will raise significant First Amendment, due process and equal protection concerns,” said Hina Shamsi, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s National Security Project.

Trump appears to be employing a term that many people associate with left-wing violence to try to promote a repressive agenda, Bray said, adding that such a move could provide an umbrella for clamping down on any political opposition.

Under U.S. law, the government can designate hostile groups as “foreign terrorist organizations,” a label that carries key financial and legal consequences. It can do so because individuals and groups that are entirely foreign aren’t protected by the First Amendment. Typically, the formal declaration is made by the secretary of state, often under direction from the president, and the label allows the Treasury Department to impose financial sanctions and the Justice Department to prosecute people for providing “material support or resources” to the organization.


https://wapo.st/4mjuSIT

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Kafkaesque by design. C_U_L8R Sep 2025 #1
And that was probably our original sin: we took it all for granted. Biophilic Sep 2025 #2
I never took it for granted dwayneb Sep 2025 #4
I still don't know if he can do this legally. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #3
I remember the 60's differently from you Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #5
Lol @ the idea of "Antifa" being any sort of a real organization AZJonnie Sep 2025 #6
No one knows who antifa is bob4460 Sep 2025 #7
The implications are zero, Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #8
Unless this is successfully opposed as a concept, there will be other real organizations next. Can't let this one go nt wiggs Sep 2025 #14
Well, since the entity with legal standing to sue doesn't exist . . . Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #15
The MaddowBlog-The unsettling consequence of Trump designating antifa as a 'major terrorist organization' LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2025 #9
This is playing to the MAGA crowd. Aunt Tifa is still a big bogey man to them. progressoid Sep 2025 #10
I accidentally fell into that while searching a source of rumors about the death of a local LeftInTX Sep 2025 #16
There is no organization named Antifa LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2025 #11
Antifa, the word, needs to be put to rest. Prairie_Seagull Sep 2025 #12
This kind of action has another possible result The Madcap Sep 2025 #13
If you are anti-AntiFa, then you are a fascist LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2025 #17
Will they be arresting the CEO of Antifa first? Ping Tung Sep 2025 #18
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