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In reply to the discussion: PLEASE CALM DOWN! Raskin's move was absolutely perfect. This was a win [View all]MerryBlooms
(11,871 posts)185. Congresswoman Plaskett masterfully, explained to Joy Reid
how getting Herrera-Butler's testimony into the record was the point. Herrera-Butler didn't need to be there in person. Plus, defense did not object and allowed the testimony in,as truth, as stated. Defense later, then tried to stipulate they didn't do what they did, Ha! That was a big deal. There was never going to be a conviction, the republicans stated that fact from the beginning. I'm very proud of our House Managers. I would love to see President Plaskett some day, she's magnificent.
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PLEASE CALM DOWN! Raskin's move was absolutely perfect. This was a win [View all]
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
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And got Trump to admit something - and showed McCarthy to be a craven liar at the same time
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#3
I concur. Also, there is always some faction that finds Democracy inconvenient for their agenda.
dameatball
Feb 2021
#64
I'm not sure we are disagreeing actually. I am saying that I don't blame "Democracy" for the things
dameatball
Feb 2021
#118
You think Herrera Butler testifying live in two or three weeks would have saved our Democracy?
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#18
Watergate is a good example. The 'buzz' snowballed out on the street as hearings went on and on.
Hermit-The-Prog
Feb 2021
#143
Also, there was no pandemic forcing people to stay in, so they tuned in after work, on hearsay.
Hermit-The-Prog
Feb 2021
#157
No, no, no. That is not good enough. Please explain why they called for witnesses, THEN...
servermsh
Feb 2021
#40
The point of calling a witness - the ONLY point - is to get their testimony into the record
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#49
By not objecting to the admission of the comments and not offering any evidence countering them
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#71
all I know is I woke up to the news that Trump conceded that the conversation with McCarthy
CatWoman
Feb 2021
#57
The managers get the last word on all they do. No leadership through this whole thing. THIS,
ancianita
Feb 2021
#55
True, but I must admit, publicity helps. If it weren't for the need to get moving on our
KPN
Feb 2021
#39
No it doesn't. But the fact is we are dealing with GOP Senators who are traitors to our
KPN
Feb 2021
#47
True, but I think the point of live witnesses is for the camera, ie. for the publc
LiberalLovinLug
Feb 2021
#21
Showing a deposition of a congresswoman no one heard of in 2 or 3 weeks to talk about a phone call
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#129
They asked for witnsses and got it and got the witnesses statement into the record
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#42
The 14th Amendment can't be invoked unilaterally by Congress without a court finding of guilt
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#67
They also stipulated, without objection, to the admission of the statements
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#77
His failure to object to her statement is a tacit admission that her statement is true
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#88
It was, indeed. He knows exactly what's important to do. We're having the best outcome we can expect
ancianita
Feb 2021
#43
I think everything you say is completely true, but I would take one aspect a little further.
BobTheSubgenius
Feb 2021
#52
Cicicilline is reading the McCarthy quote into the record as part of the closing arguments
BumRushDaShow
Feb 2021
#54
As you said..YOU calm down!!!! We don't need a boss here! Not adding
Laura PourMeADrink
Feb 2021
#60
Why do you think Jaime Herrera Butler was going to produce a "dramatic moment" in two weeks?
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#104
Trump's stipulation to the accuracy of Herrera Butler paves the way for some very damaging publicity
Ford_Prefect
Feb 2021
#73
If you aren't one of those looking for drama, then I wasn't talking about you
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#115
I don't think this is a 'cave' at all. Not a bit. I think the Democrats are playing hardball.
PatrickforO
Feb 2021
#125
I don't think Raskin actually even wanted witnesses. He won at playing chicken,
The Velveteen Ocelot
Feb 2021
#140
If I underrstand correctly, extending the trial with witnesses also had the possibility...
JHB
Feb 2021
#126
I agree with your post, and await rebuttals. Still waiting for the un-redacted report as well....
Evolve Dammit
Feb 2021
#146
Neither Watergate nor Benghazi proceedings you're referring to were an impeachment trial
StarfishSaver
Feb 2021
#188
Nite! It's early still in the West Coast, so I will keep it going from my side
DonaldsRump
Feb 2021
#195
Cogently and lucidly expressed. Let's not gift many dozens of lazy MSM journalists their catnip
Prof.Higgins
Feb 2021
#196