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In reply to the discussion: Why is Social Security Under Attack from Obama, when it ADDS NOTHING to the deficit??? [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)57. Ah,
"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican." - Barack Obama
...context is everything.
AMA: One issue that Cuban-Americans are worried about is, they believe that you favor a socialist model for our country. Cubans and Venezuelans especially because of what they have gone through. What do you think of that?
PBO: I don't know that there are a lot of Cubans or Venezuelans, Americans who believe that. The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican. I mean, what I believe in is a tax system that is fair. I don't think government can solve every problem. I think that we should make sure that we're helping young people go to school. We should make sure that our government is building good roads and bridges and hospitals and airports so that we have a good infrastructure. I do believe that it makes sense that everyone in America, as rich as this country is, shouldn't go bankrupt because someone gets sick, so the things I believe in are essentially the same things your viewers believe in.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s
PBO: I don't know that there are a lot of Cubans or Venezuelans, Americans who believe that. The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican. I mean, what I believe in is a tax system that is fair. I don't think government can solve every problem. I think that we should make sure that we're helping young people go to school. We should make sure that our government is building good roads and bridges and hospitals and airports so that we have a good infrastructure. I do believe that it makes sense that everyone in America, as rich as this country is, shouldn't go bankrupt because someone gets sick, so the things I believe in are essentially the same things your viewers believe in.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s
President Obama was redefining the right to emphasize how crazy the Republican Party has become.
It curious how excited people are over this statement in the context of defining the President versus what he actually said, which was related to policies. Republicans today are extremists. The President is saying his policy proposals are mainstream.
The President's health care law:
Expands Medicaid: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022047642 Increases taxes on the rich: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2059710 Includes a federal-control clause: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021978966
That doesn't include eliminating the middle man from federal student loans, expanding Pell Grants and strengthening Medicare, to name a few.
If he's "Republican," he's one I can live with.
As for the past, let's not let rhetoric get the best of reality. Republicans sucked in the 1980s, and there were a lot of Democrats over the last 40 years who also sucked.
Phil Gramm:
In 1976, Gramm unsuccessfully challenged Texas Democratic Senator Lloyd M. Bentsen, in the party's senatorial primary. Then in 1978 Gramm successfully ran as a Democrat for Representative from Texas's 6th congressional district, which stretched from the Fort Worth suburbs to College Station. He was reelected to his House seat as a Democrat in 1980.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gramm#United_States_House_of_Representatives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gramm#United_States_House_of_Representatives
Richard Shelby:
Originally elected as a Democrat, Shelby switched to the Republican Party in 1994 when Republicans gained the majority in Congress midway through President Bill Clinton's first term. He was re-elected by a large margin in 1998 and has faced no significant electoral opposition since.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Shelby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Shelby
Zell Miller:
Miller crossed party lines and backed Republican President George W. Bush over Democratic nominee John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zell_Miller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zell_Miller
The dynamics are not new, and the struggle is ongoing.
A Democratic President enacted the COLA.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022045787
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Why is Social Security Under Attack from Obama, when it ADDS NOTHING to the deficit??? [View all]
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
OP
Thanks for that video. Obama thinks liberalism is a tired, old ideology that needs to be replaced??
factsarenotfair
Dec 2012
#42
Obama: "Too many of us have been interested in defending programs as written in 1938."
woo me with science
Dec 2012
#69
How can intelligent people fail to heed Obama's words and deeds: He is not a friend of Social
byeya
Dec 2012
#73
there are other options that do not seem to be pursued - for example raising the cap
DrDan
Dec 2012
#35
Wait. Why is Social Security in the mix - WHEN IT DOES NOT ADD TO THE DEFICIT?
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#37
That's absurd. Simply having those who earn over $110,000/yr pay ito it will keep
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#10
There is no reason to even mention SS in these negotiations and the Progressive Caucus
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#31
I've never seen any figures on how raising the cap will raise sufficient sums of money
customerserviceguy
Dec 2012
#80
Here are the core numbers in the PDF from the Social Security Chief Actuary:
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#98
If only that were true. But the opposite is true. First of all SS is not in trouble
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#63
Yes, Neo-liberaliam has been tried in several places throughout the world and has been proved to
byeya
Dec 2012
#74
If you are in control of negotiations, if your party wins an election, you get to
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#7
He's "more like Harry Truman"? You must have a sense of humor. He's the exact opposite of Truman.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#17
Right now, SS is self-funding. However, this will not be the case starting in 2033.
Nye Bevan
Dec 2012
#14
Rationalization fail. Logic fail. High probability of administration deception detected.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#38
The media has spun the demographics to make it appear half the population is not working, thus they
freshwest
Dec 2012
#15
The appointer of Simpson & Bowles knew exactly where these two right-wingers stood. Their answer
indepat
Dec 2012
#19
Take the cap off of wage limits on SSI. Not fair that poor and middle class only pay this in.
earcandle
Dec 2012
#21
or maybe it was used to bribe senators and house? Put it back and audit SSI NOW
earcandle
Dec 2012
#22
If you have any proof of that, I would love to see it, unfortunately his latest statement,
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#89
because he knew the radical right would never go for a tax increase. He looks like a goddamn hero
pasto76
Dec 2012
#29
How does offering up our SS fund to vultures make him look like a "goddamn hero"?
Dragonfli
Dec 2012
#33
Of course, but historically Obama has had to be pushed hard to do the right thing.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#61
Just say someone wants to buy your car, but, heck, they'd like your house too;
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#67
I don't think it should have ever been offered...but I still understand why he went there.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2012
#72
I read nothing in that article about Obama attacking or cutting Social Security. And he hasn't.
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#71
I would very much appreciate a link to the administration stating that chained cpi and
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#96
What are you talkin about? This is a call to action, asking that we all call
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#85
Bernake is only interested in stuffing our hard earned money into his obesely rich
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#91
Because SS is unsustainable in its current form- it's going to need some tweaking if people my age
cecilfirefox
Dec 2012
#97
Then it should be adressed seperately from the the deficit reduction talks. Especially
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#99