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52. we went to war over secession

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 02:17 PM

Sep 2025

...you won't get anywhere near that today.

Nation's fully integrated between parties, and there's no defining issue like slavery dividing us. It would be an attempted end around the elephant in the legislature and WH that would lose steam behind it's own tyrannical intent.

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I've finally come around on secession [View all] Joe Nation Sep 2025 OP

It's secession(the action of withdrawing formally from membership of a federation or body, especially a political state) Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #1

Secession. nt Wednesdays Sep 2025 #2

Thanks Joe Nation Sep 2025 #5

Folks knew what you meant. Public correction is rude. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #54

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #60

2+347⅙ Oeditpus Rex Sep 2025 #70

I always take 2+347 and 1/6 as a complement. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #84

... Oeditpus Rex Sep 2025 #93

There have always been turncoats and traitors to our Liberal Revolution. GreenWave Sep 2025 #3

In a time snowybirdie Sep 2025 #4

This TheProle Sep 2025 #6

Right BidenRocks Sep 2025 #50

Many, many counties do exactly this. Joe Nation Sep 2025 #7

Wondering snowybirdie Sep 2025 #13

Not many have done that, at least not peaceably... Wounded Bear Sep 2025 #23

The people of Yugoslavia didn't want to split Buzz cook Sep 2025 #53

Yugoslavia Cirsium Sep 2025 #27

Of those, I only see one as being "peaceful" breakups, Czechoslovakia... Wounded Bear Sep 2025 #56

Right Cirsium Sep 2025 #86

Ireland was invaded and colonized markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #78

I would like it too, but if you think down the road a bit ...it's a really bad idea PortTack Sep 2025 #37

I totally get your point. but if that happens, can those of us in Redstatistan seek political asylum in Bluestatistan? raccoon Sep 24 #97

You are optimistic the nation will come together bronxiteforever Sep 2025 #32

I am already separated from most every member of my family by conflicting beliefs misanthrope Sep 2025 #57

We'd lose 95% of the geographic area somsai Sep 2025 #87

All food production, potable water, energy production, roads, railroads, mining, etc... pcdb Sep 2025 #89

Oops. Missed that one. Kingofalldems Sep 24 #99

I wasn't advocating for the suggested form of secession misanthrope Sep 24 #98

My Main Concern Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #8

Whole areas of blue states would become depopulated Kaleva Sep 2025 #51

I find it more likely those people in rural areas misanthrope Sep 2025 #59

With the possibility of individual states, red and blue, breaking up Kaleva Sep 2025 #61

Personally...(OK, if Aliens landing and made me King or even a Surf) I'd change a little... chouchou Sep 2025 #9

There is a petition going around in Canada right now, that is trying to have politicians both elected and Bev54 Sep 2025 #25

Sounds like a good idea. While it's true that the media has sometimes exaggerated the truth (To their liking) chouchou Sep 2025 #49

About 5% of the adult population watches Fox News Kaleva Sep 2025 #43

Really?! That's all?!! Who's stats were those electric_blue68 Sep 2025 #75

5 percent does feel rather low. Anyway, we know that quite a bit of political contests... chouchou Sep 2025 #88

I say let the stupid morons get what they deserve without dragging the rest of us down Blue Owl Sep 2025 #10

Big sticking point: national defense. Qutzupalotl Sep 2025 #11

Who can afford them? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #62

I was watching the Max documentary on Gwen Shamblin and had a similar thought Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #12

Secession as a remedy Cirsium Sep 2025 #14

What happens to the sane people living in red states? Bayard Sep 2025 #15

Thank you. I wouldn't want to be left behind. hamsterjill Sep 2025 #21

I Always Think of This!... electric_blue68 Sep 2025 #74

The problem is that "People who support this fascist dictatorship" are your neighbors maxsolomon Sep 2025 #16

I worry becoming two different countries would just cause more problems LostOne4Ever Sep 2025 #17

There are a lot of Christian fundamentalists, fascists, racists and dumbasses along the west coast states. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2025 #18

Secession will be difficult if the Constitution still cachukis Sep 2025 #19

The constitution does not matter to the existing regime or the supreme court for that matter. Bev54 Sep 2025 #29

That seems to be true, but there will have to be some cachukis Sep 2025 #63

Secession is not going to happen. LudwigPastorius Sep 2025 #20

but the federal government has been dismantled Tumbulu Sep 2025 #79

The US Armed forces have not been dismantled, in fact they are now receiving increased funding. Celerity Sep 24 #96

Intermixture Nasruddin Sep 2025 #22

Yeah, not geographically divided like we were back in the 1850's... Wounded Bear Sep 2025 #26

Look up "soft secession" and see what you think of that tactic Hekate Sep 2025 #24

Yes sounds great and it's already happening Freddie Sep 2025 #45

Terrible idea. highplainsdem Sep 2025 #28

giving that kind of power to these fascist fucks is utterly ridiculous Skittles Sep 2025 #76

Absolutely! H2O Man Sep 2025 #91

In my fantasy world--Blue States would combine with Canada crimycarny Sep 2025 #30

The biggest problem is geography lapfog_1 Sep 2025 #31

This is why borders change and people migrate. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #34

Yes, and it took centuries to bring warfare to a close relayerbob Sep 2025 #41

This is the goal. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #33

Exactly correct relayerbob Sep 2025 #40

Putin is a true evil genius. His plan has been extremely successful. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #44

Well, China relayerbob Sep 2025 #65

Yes I agree. Russia has turned into another pain in the ass ally for China. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #66

It's China's gas station. thought crime Sep 2025 #82

I have no idea how it would work CanonRay Sep 2025 #35

That won't fix anything relayerbob Sep 2025 #36

This is Putin's wet dream AdamGG Sep 2025 #38

No thank you. What we needed 170 years ago Ilsa Sep 2025 #39

Only way is if we give up rule of law Tree Lady Sep 2025 #42

This again? mcar Sep 2025 #46

Thank you thank you! Traildogbob Sep 2025 #71

Don't know what "the Josh Holly" means but I love the sentiment! mcar Sep 2025 #81

Sorry Traildogbob Sep 2025 #83

I get it! Well said mcar Sep 2025 #85

This is not a serious idea and does not merit serious discussion. tritsofme Sep 2025 #47

Certain aspects of "soft succession" should definitely be more rigorously explored in blue states. Magoo48 Sep 2025 #48

That's always seemed like the silliest idea. Even if a state managed to steal tax dollars intended for the federal tritsofme Sep 2025 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Magoo48 Sep 2025 #80

we went to war over secession bigtree Sep 2025 #52

That might be great for those of you in blue states arkielib Sep 2025 #58

Sounds awesome! But MenloParque Sep 2025 #64

Can we draw the new boundaries to include all blue cities? Patton French Sep 2025 #67

The problem is PCB66 Sep 2025 #68

According to The Washington Post, journalist Tim Russert invented these terms during his televised coverage of the 2000 Celerity Sep 24 #95

No, no, fuck no. themaguffin Sep 2025 #69

Nope Wifes husband Sep 2025 #72

Pointless and Dangerous The Revolution Sep 2025 #73

Nations and empires come and go LS0999 Sep 2025 #77

The problem with that idea now is, we are MUCH more divided between urban vs. rural voters, Jack Valentino Sep 2025 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #92

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