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In reply to the discussion: I am an Anarchist. Not a "Libertarian" or a "Galtist" but an Anarchist. [View all]NoOneMan
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I am looking at civilization as a whole (from the last 10K years, prior to the existence of capitalism). Even communism has created its own blights on the world.
Its about the following question: are humans a part of the world or owners of it?
Socialism vs capitalism is simply the question of how to distribute the spoils of exploitation of the earth. In both models, production and advancement are fundamental components. Liberalism is so far entrenched within the model of civilization that it cannot even see that its own answers are simply putting lipstick of a destructive machine, making it more friendly to the exploited worker while it grows infinitely. Frankly, democratic socialism has illustrated its ability to vastly increase wealth and production, and thereby, the velocity of energy and capital; a structure which succeeds for people fails for the very environment those lives ultimately depend upon.
BTW, for a challenge, please explain how a democratic socialist society would release significantly less atmospheric carbon while producing new smart phones for its consumers every 18 months and feeding 8 billion people with conventional farming?