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36. Yes. I need to take some time to see if CBO, or other entities, have good estimates of ripple effects...

Thu Sep 25, 2025, 08:03 PM

Sep 2025

... like emergency room closures, entire hospital closures, seniors losing long-term care placements, long-term care facilities closing...

We don't want to overwhelm with estimates, but a few numbers to make the case that this isn't just about some "low income" people losing their health insurance. It is about ALL OF US paying the price in less care, more expensive care, and in places already failing to serve the public, new "health care deserts."

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Republicans want to cut your healthcare so badly, they'll shut down the government to do it. [View all] pat_k Sep 2025 OP

Yep.............. Lovie777 Sep 2025 #1

Democrats will cheer. Republicans will say, "Who care?" We are split 50/50, so not sure we'll prevail. Silent Type Sep 2025 #2

Trump's "coalition" has collapsed pat_k Sep 2025 #5

No, we're not 50/50 paleotn Sep 2025 #6

Guess you don't trust polls? Please provide a citation of your trope that it is50/50. Silent Type Sep 2025 #19

His approval rating is a "tad" below 50%, no? paleotn Sep 2025 #23

I'd call 40% Approve 60% Disapprove more than a "tad" pat_k Sep 2025 #27

I was being facetious with the "tad" comment. paleotn Sep 26 #51

Opps. Me being a tad dense. pat_k Sep 26 #52

When over 90 million voters sat out of the last election, over a 3rd, then roughly 60% voted and 51% of them R Cheezoholic Sep 2025 #24

Look at the results for 2024. What was trump's percentage of votes, not to mention losing both chambers. Silent Type Sep 2025 #31

Your statement this country is 50/50 is false. If anything we're 50/50 of those who vote and those who dont Cheezoholic Sep 2025 #35

of course we're not. pat_k Sep 2025 #21

If the Dems don't give in and won't refuse anything less BigmanPigman Sep 2025 #3

Just need to message it properly. paleotn Sep 2025 #7

We, the base, are messengers too. And we can get it right. And push our electeds to do a better job. pat_k Sep 2025 #25

I love this message. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #30

Thanks! Perhaps you'll like my follow-up too. pat_k Sep 2025 #34

P.S. I suggest you subscribe to Ariella Elm's substack. pat_k Sep 2025 #33

Yes to this mountain grammy Sep 2025 #46

Glad this inspired a big Yes! pat_k Sep 2025 #47

Also Help Point Out How Many People Will Lose Their Jobs modrepub Sep 2025 #4

Yes. I need to take some time to see if CBO, or other entities, have good estimates of ripple effects... pat_k Sep 2025 #36

If only a shutdown would shut down ICE... Wounded Bear Sep 2025 #8

That is for a future battle. pat_k Sep 2025 #37

K&R B.See Sep 2025 #9

Thanks! pat_k Sep 26 #53

Good message, too bad you can't fit "people will die" somewhere in there. Fil1957 Sep 2025 #10

Oh, I think you can. pat_k Sep 2025 #38

Great post! Thank you! ancianita Sep 2025 #11

Thanks! If you have other socials, perhaps post there too! pat_k Sep 26 #54

And it all to take from those who need jobs and health care IbogaProject Sep 2025 #12

I'm a little unclear about how demands to maintain full appropriations for Medicaid... pat_k Sep 2025 #39

Wut? IbogaProject Sep 26 #48

Of course. But appropriation bills and CR's don't.. pat_k Sep 26 #49

Ah, I was talking about public messaging IbogaProject Sep 26 #50

This is great stuff. Ready to call and write my sleazy FL legislators with these, and share with everyone I meet. Timeflyer Sep 2025 #13

So glad to hear it inspired you to action. It did the same for me. (nt) pat_k Sep 2025 #40

Slow genocide. moondust Sep 2025 #14

That is our message. mountain grammy Sep 2025 #15

Hear! Hear! And if you have a Democratic Rep, or if either (or both) Senators are Dems, send them the message. pat_k Sep 2025 #45

In MAGA World, cutting healthcare is "good" while trying to save it is "liberal extremism." n/t Beartracks Sep 2025 #16

I'm a liberal extremist BOSSHOG Sep 2025 #20

There are plenty in MAGA world receiving those "enhanced ACA subsidies" pat_k Sep 2025 #41

"When you talk about the shutdown, don't start with politics. Start with people." Beartracks Sep 2025 #17

Frame it as unwilling to be an acquiescent accomplice. BattleRow Sep 2025 #18

I may be in a minority here ... Metaphorical Sep 2025 #22

I totally agree. But I think an important part of our strategy should be to spread the message in the OP Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #28

This woman is talented. I hope all our reps listen to this and do what she says. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #26

She is. I've found all of her contributions over on Sez.Us extremely valuable. pat_k Sep 2025 #43

All republicans have to do is say it's for immigrants...... Lovie777 Sep 2025 #29

And we counter that with more powerful messages. It's time for US, Not Them, to create "Reality." pat_k Sep 2025 #44

Republicans Shut the Government Down because Epstein! PuraVidaDreamin Sep 2025 #32

Republicans want non-billionaires to DIE so that they won't VOTE! Jack Valentino Sep 2025 #42