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rhett o rick

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62. Why of course it would be better and ridiculous to insinuate we dont agree.

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:10 PM

Dec 2012

But with most problems there are a number of different solutions. Some more important than others, but it doesnt have to be one or the other. Go ahead and get rid of the guns. You are quick to argue about the expense to modify schools but dont present a recommendation on how the hell we get rid of the millions of guns in this country. And at what expense?

How about this, while you are figuring out how to take guns away from citizens, let's work on modifications to our schools. Making a exit is only one recommendation. I have a number of recommendations. More cameras. All visitors must wear badges they get from the office. Only one entrance. Lots of exits. Ability to isolate sections of the school. No large bags allowed in without inspection. Lockers instead of backpacks in the rooms. There are lots of ways, some not expensive that can improve the security at our schools. None of these suggestions are fool proof but any improvement that reduces the chances of a re-occurrence of these terrible tragedies is worth it.

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This man is totally insane... [View all] reACTIONary Dec 2012 OP

LaPierre is insane. yellerpup Dec 2012 #1

This was in question before? lrellok Dec 2012 #31

Most likely the best thoughts and post I've read on the subject. Bravo..well done. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #2

Thank you for your very reasonable comments. Sadiedog Dec 2012 #3

And imagine the impression that could make on young minds, to carry that mindset RKP5637 Dec 2012 #27

this is exactly what worries me...... dhill926 Dec 2012 #52

yes, violence should never be normalized.nt Sadiedog Dec 2012 #55

With your permission.....could myself and perhaps others post this elsewhere? Jobam Dec 2012 #4

Pleas do, however the credit goes to a fellow named Jeff Toorish, not me... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #12

K & R TxVietVet Dec 2012 #5

let's create emergency exit doors in every first floor rsweets Dec 2012 #6

Every exit is also a way to get in. RC Dec 2012 #9

Your point? Lordquinton Dec 2012 #10

My point is the problem is too many guns, not escape routes. RC Dec 2012 #17

To be fair he did say first story rooms Lordquinton Dec 2012 #23

All of this is the same argument businesses used to oppose the ADA regarding wheelchair access Occulus Dec 2012 #42

"Where is the money going to come from to redesign every school in the nation?" Occulus Dec 2012 #43

Why would it not be better to get rid of the guns and ammo used in all of the killings? RC Dec 2012 #47

Why of course it would be better and ridiculous to insinuate we dont agree. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #62

It would be impossible to make the doors only open out. Blanks Dec 2012 #58

Agreed. He could have suggested things like door locks. Two exits per room. Window exits. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #7

Great post, thank you. bitchkitty Dec 2012 #8

great points, well written AlecBGreen Dec 2012 #11

superb. Jeff Toorish exemplifies something we (the country) need but seem to have no respect for: BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #13

Well written. I suggest that rather than a gun in every school ... Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2012 #14

I suggest a psychiatrist, to do the sanity testing required by the new laws coming... N/T _Liann_ Dec 2012 #30

AWB LiberalMadeline Dec 2012 #15

The AWB as it existed, or as it might be reenacted? I think... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #21

when I draw my weapon for training, I know very much what I am training to do pasto76 Dec 2012 #16

I agree with most of this, but not with thinking that having a gun in the home is not a good idea Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #18

Situations differ. salin Dec 2012 #26

Oh, yes. I do those other things, too. Crime is not rampant here. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #39

Your correct, oldbanjo Dec 2012 #34

Equal to what? another_liberal Dec 2012 #37

So by his logic the only way to stop a bad guy revmclaren Dec 2012 #19

No, that's just your logic. A gun is roughly the correct amount of force required to Flatulo Dec 2012 #51

His logic ignores stopping bad guys getting guns in the first place! Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2012 #60

Brilliant essay - thanks for sharing Mr. Toorish's comments (n/t) klook Dec 2012 #20

And thanks for crediting Mr. Toorish... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #22

Insane people who intend to commit suicide... love_katz Dec 2012 #24

Brilliant essay nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #25

Thanks for this post. haikugal Dec 2012 #28

List of arguments why rent-a-cops in schools is not so good idea... _Liann_ Dec 2012 #29

(7) Take note of what a renowned Republican said: Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2012 #61

Terrific essay. Many thanks. nt Hekate Dec 2012 #32

Fuck. K&R. cliffordu Dec 2012 #33

While cogent, Toorish makes no mention of any necessary legislation... VOX Dec 2012 #35

There were armed guards at Columbine . . . another_liberal Dec 2012 #36

No, you only shoot the guys with masks, assault rifles and ammo belts who are firing at people. Flatulo Dec 2012 #40

Cops exist as a deterrent. People tend to be on their best behavior when cops are around. Flatulo Dec 2012 #38

You're right what could possibly go wrong with a trained professional in the classroom? A Simple Game Dec 2012 #45

Right, and that idiot proves that every single last cop in the universe is incompetent and cannot be Flatulo Dec 2012 #50

Wow didn't take much to change your mind. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #53

LOL, I'm an old man already, and yes, people's abilities follow a normal distribution. Flatulo Dec 2012 #56

Can't argue with that logic. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2012 #59

A most excellent sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #41

You may be right for your location, but where I live Swat would be about 2 hours away. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #46

The best solution sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #48

Sounds like a good idea. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2012 #54

I like your analysis. It's doable, and wouldn't break the bank. Plus it has the most desirable Flatulo Dec 2012 #57

Excellent essay. I do however have one minor quibble about the Fort Hood comment. Glassunion Dec 2012 #44

Not only that, sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #49

Wrong. He's not insane. Kablooie Dec 2012 #63

Agree on LaPierrre - no more conferences he's out. Time to get the adults involved. toby jo Dec 2012 #64

Wayne LaPierre is just as crazy as those who commit mass shootings. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #65

K and R nt. thanks for posting Stuart G Dec 2012 #66