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Ms. Toad

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51. Educate yourself, before throwing sticks
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:40 PM
Sep 2025

And making assertions about what any population goes through to get government assistance.

Are you aware that in response an effort under Biden to encourage investment in multi-year green farming changes, farmers made multiple-year personal loan own commitments - commitments no family farmer would have been able to make on their own - and that Trump has now terminated those subsidies? Farmers are still in the hook for repayment of those loans, even though they were taken out to make changes to benefit society - not the individual farmer.

Historically, many farm subsidies are made to benefit society. To make ends meet, farmers typically have to use every inch of their land. This results in tearing down windbreaks (put up during the dust bowl to minimize the damage done by windstorms), because the profit margin is so low farmers cannot afford to have non-productive land. So while it may feel like payment to do nothing - it is a payment to allow farmers to farm in a way which preserves the land.

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In good years they buy more equipment, land multigraincracker Sep 2025 #1
That needs to end. No one else gets perks. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #37
Been that way for some time now. multigraincracker Sep 2025 #46
They need to live how they want everyone else live. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #53
No matter how much they pay the farmers.... kentuck Sep 2025 #2
They need to pay living wages just like every other business should. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #38
Broadbrush much? Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #3
Anecdotal. US farm families mostly voted for trump, look at a map and you will clearly see a trump swath Blues Heron Sep 2025 #5
Brazil and China are besties now BeyondGeography Sep 2025 #8
As soon as tRump took office China made plans to buy elsewhere Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #39
Totally agree BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #14
All I've done is labor my whole life Coolgoober Sep 2025 #9
Sadly, falling on deaf ears. Gimpyknee Sep 2025 #23
They need to face the consequences of their votes. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #40
About 22% of farmers didn't vote for Trump. Gimpyknee Sep 2025 #59
Not in. My experience. Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #32
Anecdotal and totally irrelevant. BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #16
At least as relevant as posts slamming all farmers. n/t Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #31
It's not actually. BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #33
This is not your father's farm. Few of those exist any more. Most farmers receiving bailouts are millionaires Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #17
And you've been in a family farm how recently? Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #30
When I wrote "few exist" that means that "some might exist". You confirm that I was right. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #35
Not dues it prove yours. Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #36
Yeah because im driving Coolgoober Sep 2025 #43
Educate yourself, before throwing sticks Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #51
Sounds like you grew up in a long ago era. llmart Sep 2025 #18
I didn't think of them as deprivations - Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #27
It was sarcasm. You know, the shit they say about people on mtngirl47 Sep 2025 #25
I doubt it. Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #28
Thanks mtngirl47 Coolgoober Sep 2025 #44
Yep, depends on the size of the family farm. multigraincracker Sep 2025 #49
None of us are still farming. Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #52
Best of luck to you and the family. multigraincracker Sep 2025 #54
Yes - quite challenging. Ms. Toad Sep 2025 #61
Am so tired of the socialist republican farmers UpInArms Sep 2025 #4
Well, you what they down in the farm - Some or more equal than others. underpants Sep 2025 #6
"EWG Farm Subsidy Database" is an interesting place to peruse. dameatball Sep 2025 #7
Indeed. Why should they get a handout? They all knew these tariffs were going to destroy travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #10
Farming not That Simple zoee Sep 2025 #11
I did have sympathy the first time around to see that the soybean market they'd worked so hard to develop in China just Walleye Sep 2025 #15
It would be a lot easier Quanta Sep 2025 #19
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2025 #58
Agree And You'll See Some Blowback modrepub Sep 2025 #12
What would really help the farmers out is another tax cut for billionaires and corporations. Ray Bruns Sep 2025 #13
Let's not lump the corporations into the group of who to blame for the plight of the farmers. llmart Sep 2025 #22
This is buying their votes Warpy Sep 2025 #20
Maybe It's Time to Confront the Real Problem willbrad9080 Sep 2025 #21
Welcome to DU. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #24
They need to have the consequences of their votes Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #41
You said it Coolgoober Sep 2025 #47
Welcome to DU! Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #55
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2025 #57
Brilliant post! mtngirl47 Sep 2025 #26
The "fiscal conservative" republicans raised the debt ceiling by $5 TRILLION just for fraud, waste and abuse Mysterian Sep 2025 #29
So he steals their revenue and ruins their farms C_U_L8R Sep 2025 #34
There Are Those That Voted For Trump And Those That Didn't Nonethless We All Suffer As A Result... Relevant: MayReasonRule Sep 2025 #42
Nice composition to promote division.... Sogo Sep 2025 #45
Not disparaging farmers Coolgoober Sep 2025 #50
Boohoohoo Mysterian Sep 2025 #56
None. Sogo Sep 2025 #62
This young (Democratic) lady is a farmer AND holds a doctorate in plant biology from University of Florida AND BamaRefugee Sep 2025 #48
Corporate Farms Welfare Queens Evrytingfinemon Sep 2025 #60
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