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In reply to the discussion: Obama to Use Pension Funds of Ordinary Americans to Pay for Bank Mortgage “Settlement” [View all]PA Democrat
(13,428 posts)63. I'm not sure what you are saying.
It was because of media coverage that we lost the public option?
There are numerous reports now from people on the inside of the process who stated the the public option was negotiated away very early on in the process in return for the support of hospitals and the insurance industry.
According to Tom Dascle:
It was taken off the table as a result of the understanding that people had with the hospital association, with the insurance (AHIP), and others. I mean I think that part of the whole effort was based on a premise. That premise was, you had to have the stakeholders in the room and at the table. Lessons learned in past efforts is that without the stakeholders active support rather than active opposition, its almost impossible to get this job done. They wanted to keep those stakeholders in the room and this was the price some thought they had to pay.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2010/10/05/171689/daschle-interview/
And Richard Kirsch:
The book is Fighting For Our Health, by Richard Kirsch, who directed the advocacy group Health Care for America Now during the push for reform. HCAN is a well financed umbrella group backed by scores of liberal groups, unions, and other reformers making Kirsch a close witness to the entire saga. He confirms that the White House treated the public option like a bargaining chip with powerful industry players, and believes that when his group became most critical of the bill mid-way through the fight, that top White House aides sought to have him canned.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/key-reform-ally-dishes-on-weak-kneed-white-house-health-care-pushes-on-weak-kneed-reform.php
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Obama to Use Pension Funds of Ordinary Americans to Pay for Bank Mortgage “Settlement” [View all]
Karmadillo
Jan 2012
OP
Other than stating that it is Obama bashing, can you actually refute the piece?
MadHound
Jan 2012
#2
Naked Capitalism is not an Obama bashing site. But it is a mortgage banker bashing site...
rfranklin
Jan 2012
#10
Whatever, but I prefer someone telling the truth about the efforts to paper over the mortgage fraud.
rfranklin
Jan 2012
#19
I have notice that you have a particularly see no evil attitude toward the administration...
rfranklin
Jan 2012
#23
My new standard includes this: anyone who starts a conter arugment with personal
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2012
#32
The good senator better stake out his claim for space under the bus and do it fast....
tpsbmam
Jan 2012
#115
Yes. First, the "don't complain until it's too late to complain" routine. Then, "this is old news"
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#96
Hey Sid, you've got something on your shoe. And it's whining about you living in Canada
Number23
Jan 2012
#87
This is an important issue that could affect the retirement funds of millions of Americans.
PA Democrat
Jan 2012
#11
We are talking about the things the Obama administration has the power to do
PA Democrat
Jan 2012
#47
The only criticism I keep hearing about Richard Cordray is that he's not Elizabeth Warren.
Arkana
Jan 2012
#83
Now that is a surprising comment; why do you bother with us, then?
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2012
#76
and i'm just pointing out that people who refer to issues as ponies are no better than, or worse..
frylock
Jan 2012
#94
It seems to me your beef is with a few individuals who vocally support the administration
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2012
#103
But wouldn't you agree that the time to address the issue is while the "sausage" is being made?
PA Democrat
Jan 2012
#58
If you recall Obama promised he would TELEVISE health care reform negotiations
PA Democrat
Jan 2012
#72
The legislative portion of it, which is what matters, was essentially televised
BumRushDaShow
Jan 2012
#84
I'm a professional horse trader, really. And I know negotiation 101 as an MBA from the U of Chicago
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#100
I think they are forever hopeful that President Lucy won't pull the ball out again.
progressoid
Jan 2012
#41