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markodochartaigh

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27. At least the Catholic church kept the Book of Sirach which the protestants ditch.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:48 PM
Oct 2025

Sirach 13:




1
Touch pitch and you blacken your hand;

associate with scoundrels and you learn their ways.

2
Do not lift a weight too heavy for you,

or associate with anyone wealthier than you.

How can the clay pot go with the metal cauldron?

When they knock together, the pot will be smashed:

3
The rich do wrong and boast of it,

while the poor are wronged and beg forgiveness.

4
As long as the rich can use you they will enslave you,

but when you are down and out they will abandon you.

5
As long as you have anything they will live with you,

but they will drain you dry without remorse.

6
When they need you they will deceive you

and smile at you and raise your hopes;

they will speak kindly to you and say, “What do you need?”

7
They will embarrass you at their dinner parties,

and finally laugh at you.

Afterwards, when they see you, they will pass you by,

and shake their heads at you.

8
Be on guard: do not act too boldly;

do not be like those who lack sense.

9
When the influential draw near, keep your distance;

then they will urge you all the more.

10
Do not draw too close, lest you be rebuffed,

but do not keep too far away lest you be regarded as an enemy.

11
Do not venture to be free with them,

do not trust their many words;

For by prolonged talk they will test you,

and though smiling they will probe you.

12
Mercilessly they will make you a laughingstock,

and will not refrain from injury or chains.

13
Be on your guard and take care

never to accompany lawless people.†

15
Every living thing loves its own kind,

and we all love someone like ourselves.

16
Every living being keeps close to its own kind;

and people associate with their own kind.

17
Is a wolf ever allied with a lamb?

So the sinner with the righteous.a

18
Can there be peace between the hyena and the dog?

Or peace between the rich and the poor?*

19
Wild donkeys of the desert are lion’s prey;

likewise the poor are feeding grounds for the rich.

20
Humility is an abomination to the proud;

and the poor are an abomination to the rich.

21
When the rich stumble they are supported by friends;

when the poor trip they are pushed down by friends.

22
When the rich speak they have many supporters;

though what they say is repugnant, it wins approval.

When the poor speak people say, “Come, come, speak up!”

though they are talking sense, they get no hearing.

23
When the rich speak all are silent,

their wisdom people extol to the clouds.

When the poor speak people say: “Who is that?”

If they stumble, people knock them down.b

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Inspiring. Thanks for sharing. mountain grammy Oct 2025 #1
Isn't it funny canetoad Oct 2025 #2
I was in deRien Oct 2025 #3
I was talking to my MAGA, evangelical christian brother about this. travelingthrulife Oct 2025 #6
From the lyrics of One Tin Soldier... irisblue Oct 2025 #9
Blast from the past canetoad Oct 2025 #16
A different one... hibbing Oct 2025 #33
But we wear them now. 1WorldHope Oct 2025 #13
He'll be reassigned soon enough. marble falls Oct 2025 #4
yeppers - Wonder if he is in Dolan's diocese rurallib Oct 2025 #5
Not likely. Bishops of Catholic diocese know their priests, and know this priest is truly representing the church's ancianita Oct 2025 #10
My Aunt said he was reassigned soon after that sermon KS Toronado Oct 2025 #12
The sermon happened 5 years ago, according to the post. nt pnwmom Oct 2025 #30
I sense . . . AverageOldGuy Oct 2025 #7
So we agree! BidenRocks Oct 2025 #8
No it doesn't. The Catholic Church's leadership in the Magisterium -- made up of the world's bishops and the pope -- ancianita Oct 2025 #17
That is why I clearly stated BidenRocks Oct 2025 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Oct 2025 #20
And what I'm telling you is that's a mistake. ancianita Oct 2025 #23
At least the Catholic church kept the Book of Sirach which the protestants ditch. markodochartaigh Oct 2025 #27
This priest is telling the truth ... I hope the parishioners were listening FakeNoose Oct 2025 #11
Nope, they got him reassigned KS Toronado Oct 2025 #14
I won't believe that until I see a link. ancianita Oct 2025 #21
There are no links to any articles KS Toronado Oct 2025 #24
I see. Well, thanks for sharing. ancianita Oct 2025 #26
There are some bishops who are MAGA or MAGA-like. soldierant Oct 2025 #32
Then they sin against the deposit of faith of the Church. That's not what the Church is about. ancianita Oct 2025 #34
I do love John Fugelsang. soldierant Oct 2025 #38
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2025 #15
Growing up in Amarillo markodochartaigh Oct 2025 #18
The Catholic Church could use more men like him. KS Toronado Oct 2025 #22
Well, markodochartaigh Oct 2025 #25
I wish people would behave decently without expecting a reward in the end Skittles Oct 2025 #28
MAGA are the ones who hate us because we vote differently. Initech Oct 2025 #29
I believe it. I heard lots of sermons like that when I was growing up. nt pnwmom Oct 2025 #31
Yes I received a Catholic education in the 50's and 60's FakeNoose Oct 2025 #36
Yes, I was a 60's and 70's kid, and that sounds like my experience, too. pnwmom Oct 2025 #37
God doesn't hate anything. How could God hate part of his creation? patphil Oct 2025 #35
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