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PCIntern

(27,806 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 05:26 AM Oct 7

A medical story for the forum: [View all]

I’m not so much of a narcissist that I feel compelled to post my medical issues online because they are uninteresting for the most part, but I have an experience I wish to share because it may help others in several ways.

To make a very long history short, I have been on blood pressure and cholesterol meds for 30+ years and am extremely well-controlled. I never miss a dose and routinely see my primary doc who is a cardiologist whom I’ve attended for 40+ years. For a senior citizen I’m pretty spry and have no serious complaints worth mentioning and am happy about that.

So at my last visit, the doc suggests that I wear a heart monitor for a week and I reluctantly agreed even though I knew I’d find it annoying. So I did it and mailed it back.

I get a call a few days later from the doc and he tells me that everything looked well as expected BUT there were four missed heartbeats with a three second interval until the next beat. He thought I should see an MD electrophysiologist to evaluate this and perhaps I might need a pacemaker. I instantly reacted and mentioned to him that in my 47 clinical years, I did not know a single individual who was asymptomatic who needed a pacemaker. He told me to just call this guy who is his secondary referral because his main guy just received a hip replacement and was way backed up. So I did as I was told.

A week later I arrived at the doctor’s office and was placed in an exam room. The doc came in, barely shook hands and proceeded to tell me, without any preamble, that I absolutely required a pacemaker and it absolutely had to be placed within a month or I could have a fatal catastrophe. So of course, I asked what type of catastrophe was I facing. His reply was that I could be driving a car, pass out, and kill myself or others I then told him that in my lifetime I have never once been light-headed or fainted and I don’t even get seasick on the roughest ocean.

He dismissed that statement out of hand and reiterated some research which I interpreted as gabble degook false statistics. Again to make a long story short, whatever I said was deemed unimportant including risks of complications . He told me his office would “reach out” to me to schedule the operation.

I left very angry, no, outraged. I called my doc and told him what happened and how this guy had decided a priori that I was getting this and he was doing it. My doc told me that I should not return to this specialist because I was angry with him and told me that he would call his primary guy and get me in. Which he did.

So I go to this fellow who takes a history, we have a ten minute discussion and he then says to me that I absolutely do not need a pacemaker, that the wave forms including that which is controlled by my vagus nerve are fine and at least one of the four beats at issue is almost certainly an artifact involving the leads of the monitor and otherwise there is essentially no cause for concern. I won’t bore you with the other details but you get the picture.

The moral of the story is this: I have never refused medical intervention in my lifetime because everything up until this point made perfect sense, but when something didn’t seem right, I followed my instincts. I had no symptoms and a serious intervention was carelessly prescribed because the first doc either didn’t care, needed to make his hospital numbers look better, or profit.

The punch line is that 3 1/2 weeks following the visit with the initial doc his office called to set up the surgery. I said, “ Great…doc told me that it positively had to be done within a month so there are only three days left. Does he have an opening?” The receptionist, after a long pause replied that he did not. I then told her that I was calling the funeral home to make arrangements. When she didn’t reply I told her that that was a joke, as was her boss, and that I was seeking other opinions” and hung up.

To sum up: I feel great and my job is to outlive all my enemies. If something doesn’t make sense to you, don’t assume that the subject material is beyond your scope of understanding. Follow your gut until you’re satisfied. Thanks for reading and stay well everyone!!

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I applaud your resolve and common sense. no_hypocrisy Oct 7 #1
a good lesson Skittles Oct 7 #2
excellent advice.... markie Oct 7 #3
I had something similar LittleGirl Oct 7 #55
good luck with your surgery markie Oct 7 #56
One surgeon said I need a new shoulder LittleGirl Oct 7 #60
Good for you! mgardener Oct 7 #4
Underscores the value of a second opinion (and where possible, a close friend, colleague or hlthe2b Oct 7 #5
You know, it's funny... PCIntern Oct 7 #8
And a lot of times just being able to ask questions. I've found a bit of research ahead of time helps. erronis Oct 7 #20
Sure. As long as it is clear you aren't using "untrained so-called medical influencers" or "Dr. Google's worst sources" hlthe2b Oct 7 #22
So, you didn't have to call your local funeral home...... Butterflylady Oct 7 #6
Very good story. Thanks for sharing. Easterncedar Oct 7 #7
The importance of THREE MissKat Oct 7 #9
Terrific advice. PCIntern Oct 7 #10
Glad your intuition was on target! Fla Dem Oct 7 #11
Reading your experience with the electrophysiologist makes me thank my lucky stars TexLaProgressive Oct 7 #12
I agree totally. OldBaldy1701E Oct 7 #13
Interesting. I have been pushed to see an electrophysiologist - much more frequently recently. erronis Oct 7 #14
Have you been on anticoagulants all this time? PCIntern Oct 7 #15
Yup - first coumadin and now eliquis. You mention the Watchman - erronis Oct 7 #21
I just BeerBarrelPolka Oct 7 #46
Good for you! And I really hope it solves those issues. erronis Oct 7 #49
Thank you BeerBarrelPolka Oct 7 #52
erron popsdenver Oct 7 #35
Your points are well understood. As almost anything in this society, money/profit will rot it out. erronis Oct 7 #50
Thank you so much for telling us your story, Ilsa Oct 7 #16
They all own stock in the company that makes the pacemaker. milestogo Oct 7 #17
It sounds like my TIA story nuxvomica Oct 7 #18
Have you considered otchmoson Oct 7 #19
Can't get involved with that stuff, PCIntern Oct 7 #30
I understand otchmoson Oct 7 #36
My brother had a health scare and was stunned watching the vultures gather malaise Oct 7 #23
Surgeons want to cut. Cardiologists who specialize in pacemakers MineralMan Oct 7 #24
As the saying goes, NewLarry Oct 7 #47
The first specialist sounds like the guy who told me I had to get both my knees replaced immediately,. That was 5 sinkingfeeling Oct 7 #25
Thanks. An experience worth sharing and applying to similar situations. joanbarnes Oct 7 #26
MD and AMA poozwah Oct 7 #27
You really have to be your own doctor these days. I'm still pissed off about my experience a week ago Vinca Oct 7 #28
Question everything. It's what I do too as a family advocate. live love laugh Oct 7 #29
"You betcha" PCIntern Oct 7 #31
What do you think of the Korean cholesterol study? womanofthehills Oct 7 #33
I haven't read that study - Ms. Toad Oct 7 #41
The Magnesium Miracle supports the findings that cholesterol isn't "bad" live love laugh Oct 8 #64
They pulled this same shit with my Dad gay texan Oct 7 #32
Similar story here, for goodnes sakes... Dancingdem Oct 7 #34
My belief now is that most doctors are mediocre at best. LuckyLib Oct 7 #37
I didn't save my source for this, and it's been a long time soldierant Oct 8 #65
My biggest regret in life is the one time I didn't stand up to a doctor. pnwmom Oct 7 #38
Oohh my gosh Chicagogrl1 Oct 7 #39
I was 31 when I first refused medical intervention. Ms. Toad Oct 7 #40
I've refused medical intervention. hunter Oct 7 #44
So far - my refusals have always been for the better. Ms. Toad Oct 7 #45
Just now, I declined the opportunity to wear a heart monitor. John1956PA Oct 7 #42
I believe the hospital pressures these docs PCIntern Oct 7 #51
I wore a heart monitor for a week and it was way more interesting than a few missed beats. hunter Oct 7 #43
And "non-profit" hospitals are anything but. erronis Oct 7 #54
They're drumming up business, minimizing liability, and pathologizing you. bucolic_frolic Oct 7 #48
Always a good idea to be your own best advocate. hamsterjill Oct 7 #53
Kickin' with enthusiasm Faux pas Oct 7 #57
Thanks for sharing. yellow dahlia Oct 7 #58
BIG kick and recommendation, might I add to get labs done on a regular basis and to 'watch the trend' ... cliffside Oct 7 #59
Thanks for sharing, would you please link to this post in the health group? There is useful information in your post ... cliffside Oct 7 #61
They are taking kickbacks from the medical device company iemanja Oct 7 #62
You handled it expertly! pacalo Oct 7 #63
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