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AloeVera

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41. If you accept the strategic provocation, which is pretty clear, then there is an element of LIHOP in that...
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 04:00 PM
Oct 2025

You provoke your enemy and accept that its response will be harmful to you.

But I think both Israel and Hamas miscalculated.

Hamas was prepared for a limited excursion into Israel, around the border military posts where it had planned to take hostages. It expected a full-spectrum defense by the IDF and hard-to-penetrate border defenses so it was to be a quick in-and-out operation.

Instead, it was able to breach the border easily and inexplicably and the IDF and other security apparatus collapsed unexpectedly. It encountered no meaningful resistance until well into the afternoon, enabling its members as well as civilians to attack unplanned targets. It claims not to have even known about the festival.

Hamas got caught in something they had not planned for, including some of their own criminal civilians going on a rampage.

There is just too much here to ignore. Putting it down to Hamas being suicidal is burying your head in the sand. It's reasonable to question how this all came about. There should be a fully independent commission of enquiry, but Netanyahu has blocked that.

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See with your own eyes [View all] iemanja Oct 2025 OP
JFC leftstreet Oct 2025 #1
Someone posted a picture days of Gaza in 2023 and now and it brought tears to my eyes kimbutgar Oct 2025 #2
It's heartbreaking iemanja Oct 2025 #4
FUCK THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT Skittles Oct 2025 #3
How can anyone doubt there are war crimes and genocide being committed there? Bayard Oct 2025 #5
I do have a few questions.. homegirl Oct 2025 #6
Which of those questions have answers that genocide solves? rubbersole Oct 2025 #7
The area homegirl Oct 2025 #16
Well, according to our Dear Leader... rubbersole Oct 2025 #19
That is how homegirl Oct 2025 #24
Repression. rubbersole Oct 2025 #34
Thanks...lol AloeVera Oct 2025 #43
Occasionally, I see a post that is so spot on iemanja Oct 2025 #44
You can probably web search all of that and post it for everyone else here to see. ... littlemissmartypants Oct 2025 #8
The population was 2 million iemanja Oct 2025 #9
Women had the vote... homegirl Oct 2025 #18
Had because no one has been able to vote iemanja Oct 2025 #23
Oh boy. How much time do you have? AloeVera Oct 2025 #30
We can always count on you for an informed response. iemanja Oct 2025 #42
The Israelis are proud of this destruction RainCaster Oct 2025 #10
The Israeli government did not publish it, the free press that exists in Israel published it. jg10003 Oct 2025 #13
Do you know what the reaction to it is in Israel? AloeVera Oct 2025 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author jg10003 Oct 2025 #11
It's not genocide, it's war. jg10003 Oct 2025 #12
Israel continues to steal Palestinian lands in the West Bank questionseverything Oct 2025 #15
A realistic homegirl Oct 2025 #25
Diversionary tactics Jilly_in_VA Oct 2025 #28
the topic is "what is genocide". jg10003 Oct 2025 #37
NO Jilly_in_VA Oct 2025 #38
Wha Israel is doing in Gaza is the definition of genocide. Lonestarblue Oct 2025 #32
And Trump demands the Nobel Prize for peace? oasis Oct 2025 #14
Makes the demo easier to prep for their resort construction... Wounded Bear Oct 2025 #17
Exactly. trump jr. is salivating over this land. trump Gaza is in his dreams. Totally Tunsie Oct 2025 #20
There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people. Howard Zinn Ping Tung Oct 2025 #21
Genocide and war crimes malaise Oct 2025 #22
My god. underpants Oct 2025 #26
Step 1 complete. Now for step 2 usonian Oct 2025 #27
Israel Jilly_in_VA Oct 2025 #29
The only thing missing is the billboard, gab13by13 Oct 2025 #33
Trump Gaza Resort. The Riviera... HE IS GOING TO DO THIS IcyPeas Oct 2025 #35
I see 10/7 as a suicide mission. maxsolomon Oct 2025 #36
That is illogical to the point of absurdity. AloeVera Oct 2025 #39
I'm not going to get on board with a LIHOP. maxsolomon Oct 2025 #40
If you accept the strategic provocation, which is pretty clear, then there is an element of LIHOP in that... AloeVera Oct 2025 #41
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