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pat_k

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24. Vance is guided not just by the insanity of Yarvin, but by Posobiec's dystopian vision of fascism saving the world.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:21 PM
Oct 2025

Last edited Tue Oct 7, 2025, 11:33 PM - Edit history (2)

Unhumans, by Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lisec

Forward by Bannon,
Blurbed by J.D. Vance, Don Jr., and Tucker Carlson, among others.

Opinion
Michelle Goldberg
JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman
Aug. 5, 2024

Paywall free link to NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.xGes.1_ONuyrQ-M2p&smid=url-share

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“Unhumans,” an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.

As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, “great men of means” are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in “Unhumans” is not subtle. “Our study of history has brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the unhumans,” write Posobiec and Lisec.

One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s civil war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the unhuman threat: “We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.”

Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the Jan. 6 insurrection. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.

Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, there’s long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it’s extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
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Back in early Aug 2024, I wrote, "I am mystified that the title of this book and the author isn't being spread as far and wide as the danger of project 2025. Unhumans goes so much farther down the dystopian authoritarian path."

By blurbing this book, Vance, Carlson, and Don Jr. are endorsing the glorification of the reign of murdering facists like Franco and Pinochet nd endorsing a vision of DT/Vance leading a similar purge.

When I first posted on this at the beginning of August 2024, I got 4 recs. I was frankly a bit shocked that the response seemed to be a bit of a "nothing new to see here."

Back then, we were less than three weeks into the nascent Harris campaign. The focus was rightly on hope and joy. And I agreed that focusing on positive change -- and particularly instilling hope that transformative change IS possible -- was crucial. But I also said we CANNOT ignore the implication of this book and how utterly horrifying the premise and "solutions" offered are.

The Trump regime is playing the Unhumans playbook of branding anyone who is against them as Subhuman entities (the enemy within) that must be utterly destroyed by whatever means he deems necessary, far more effectively than the Christian Nationalist 2025 agenda.

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He needs to escape to the Hague. Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #1
He needs to be in Supermax along with the rest of the insurrectionists! Initech Oct 2025 #25
Same Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #39
Finally some good news crazylikafox Oct 2025 #2
Hey dude, go to Russia. And leave Yavin 4 alone. Dave Bowman Oct 2025 #3
Good riddance dweller Oct 2025 #4
...to bad rubbish! SheltieLover Oct 2025 #7
Curtis Yarvin is a "thinker" to the same degree that I am an Olympic decathelete . . . hatrack Oct 2025 #5
These rich fucks just love the smell of their own farts JoseBalow Oct 2025 #9
In a sane world, he would have a mimeographed newsletter with a subscription list in the high dozens DBoon Oct 2025 #27
I don't even know who that scumbag is at all. Dave Bowman Oct 2025 #32
He's the Socrates of the Tech-bros . . . hatrack Oct 2025 #37
Good riddance. yellow dahlia Oct 2025 #6
Bye scumbag orangecrush Oct 2025 #8
Yeah, Yarvin is about as deep as the QAnon Shaman thought crime Oct 2025 #10
Thanks for the new definition. KS Toronado Oct 2025 #11
Not original with me, but pretty good. usonian Oct 2025 #14
I thought he might be leaving cuz he's on the list. Tbear Oct 2025 #12
K&R UTUSN Oct 2025 #13
He's merely the latest iteration of not fooled Oct 2025 #15
The Federal gov't is being "run by a CEO", Buddyzbuddy Oct 2025 #16
He's got a track record. usonian Oct 2025 #20
🤞 SSJVegeta Oct 2025 #17
Making note! usaf-vet Oct 2025 #18
I'm glad Yarvin thinks Trump is failing. poli-junkie Oct 2025 #19
I think Yarvin expected a full dictatorial takeover by now. usonian Oct 2025 #21
The dictatorial power is already there. poli-junkie Oct 2025 #22
That made me feel good newdeal2 Oct 2025 #23
Vance is guided not just by the insanity of Yarvin, but by Posobiec's dystopian vision of fascism saving the world. pat_k Oct 2025 #24
Thanks for the additional info. usonian Oct 2025 #26
Oh my, I hadn't noticed that milestone. And in about 7 weeks, it will be 21 years on DU! pat_k Oct 2025 #29
Good for you! usonian Oct 2025 #30
I should post Ariella Elm here too. The preamble to her 10/6 wins aligns with "Keep these brave souls in mind" pat_k Oct 2025 #33
Looks like an OP to me. usonian Oct 2025 #34
I would bet the farm that tRumps fail will be to start a civil war that he and his fellow fascists can't win ImNotGod Oct 2025 #28
I'm not seeing it, but I'm no "seer" usonian Oct 2025 #31
"It is failing because its true mission, which neither it nor (still less) its supporters understand..." Jim__ Oct 2025 #35
I guess so. To Yarvin et. al., a Nazi regime or technocracy is the goal. usonian Oct 2025 #36
It's failing because its true mission is based on boneheadedly simple-minded thinking which utterly ignores reality. eppur_se_muova Oct 2025 #40
Selfish, psychopathic idiot valleyrogue Oct 2025 #38
GTFO Yarvin Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2025 #41
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