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Mosby

(19,491 posts)
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 01:36 PM Oct 2025

Economists were wrong about tariffs. They need to figure out why. [View all]

Inflation would surge. Supply chains would crash. And the economy would be plunged into a deep recession while the stock market tanked. When President Donald Trump imposed huge tariffs on imports in April, the mainstream economic establishment and the big forecasters on Wall Street were virtually united on one point: The tariffs would trigger stagflation, at best, and a deep slump, at worst. It sounded like life would resemble a post-apocalypse Netflix series, with survivors dodging zombies and fighting one another for the last few items at the mall.

Goldman Sachs put the odds of a full-blown recession at 45 percent. Torsten Slok of private equity firm Apollo, one of the most respected economists on Wall Street, went a lot further, predicting that the odds of what he termed a “voluntary trade reset recession” were 90 percent. Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman argued that “the biggest trade shock in history” meant “a recession seems likely.”

And yet, six months on, events have not unfolded that way. The big thinkers got this one wrong — and if economics is to maintain any credibility, they need to address why that happened.

-snip-

Finally, it is starting to look as if the United States actually was getting a raw deal on trade. The U.S. now imposes an average tariff of 18.6 percent, the highest since 1933, according to Yale’s Budget Lab. And yet prices are rising by only about 3 percent. It turns out the foreign exporters were making enough money from American consumers that they can absorb most of the new tariffs, either in lower profits or through efficiency savings. They are not being paid by American consumers the way that was predicted. The extra $30 billion a month in revenue the tariffs are already generating is not exactly “free money” (after all, the most enduring lesson of this dismal science is that there is no such thing as a lunch you don’t have to pay for). But it’s as close to it as anything we have seen for a long time.

Washington Post

What economists and the legacy media failed to consider was the enormous profit margins that manufacturers make on their products, and the role elasticity of demand has on pricing.

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Two reasons: 1) Staggered changing tariffs smeared the effect. 2) Massive uncertainty. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #1
This is a very pro-Trump column. yardwork Oct 2025 #2
Looking thru a partisan lens it might be. Mosby Oct 2025 #4
I don't see any evidence of hysteria on the part of economists. yardwork Oct 2025 #8
This article is poorly written propaganda. Dawson Leery Oct 2025 #5
Matthew Lynn is a financial columnist and author. He writes for the Daily Telegraph and the Spectator in London. Celerity Oct 2025 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Oct 2025 #40
JFC Skittles Oct 2025 #39
Read on! yardwork Oct 2025 #41
*SNORT* Skittles Oct 2025 #44
Way too early to celebrate being wrong. Savings KPN Oct 2025 #3
It's darker than cheerleading. yardwork Oct 2025 #12
Post removed Post removed Oct 2025 #14
Who is Lawrence? yardwork Oct 2025 #16
O'Donnell. Mosby Oct 2025 #19
Lawrence O'Donnell is not an economist. yardwork Oct 2025 #20
He has a degree in economics from Harvard. Mosby Oct 2025 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #24
lol. I have an undergraduate degree in history but I am not a historian. yardwork Oct 2025 #26
'Liberation Day' in retrospect: 6 things that surprised investors Mosby Oct 2025 #13
The stock market isn't the economy for the average KPN Oct 2025 #49
I don't think FAFO sentiment is the same as "celebrating" Skittles Oct 2025 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #6
WaPo is running a lot of Trump propaganda these days. yardwork Oct 2025 #9
because it is, see post 15 Celerity Oct 2025 #18
The rich can ride some of the effects out.................... Lovie777 Oct 2025 #7
So foreign manufacturers are lowering their prices? Bmoboy Oct 2025 #10
Bullshit edhopper Oct 2025 #11
We're still very early in the game. Wednesdays Oct 2025 #17
This is BS because he backed off a lot of tariffs, or lowered them drastically. OrlandoDem2 Oct 2025 #21
I am pretty sure this story is slanted in more than one way BootinUp Oct 2025 #23
This is an opinion piece written by a conservative writer who backed brexit and who gives TSF lots wiggs Oct 2025 #25
The US economy was so strong it withstood a huge major grifting operation by Trump. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #27
This is the guy who predicted in a 2007 Bloomberg article that the iPhone would be a flop. Ocelot II Oct 2025 #28
the article Celerity Oct 2025 #52
Thanks! Ocelot II Oct 2025 #53
yw Celerity Oct 2025 #54
Supply chains and pricing has not fully adjusted yet. bucolic_frolic Oct 2025 #29
Post removed Post removed Oct 2025 #30
I didn't alert but this column really is nothing but right wing talking points. yardwork Oct 2025 #34
They haven't been fully implemented, and temporarily companies have been lostincalifornia Oct 2025 #31
The Gatekeepers have arrived. Kingofalldems Oct 2025 #32
Krugman had a post about this today Krazy_Kat Oct 2025 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #37
He makes some good points. Mosby Oct 2025 #38
Let's See What Shareholders Say DallasNE Oct 2025 #56
This column is what is sometimes referred to as an "absolute pant load". BannonsLiver Oct 2025 #35
The comments from WaPo readers concur. yardwork Oct 2025 #36
Stagflation DallasNE Oct 2025 #42
Why are we allowing right wing bullshit like this to be posted here? I thought it was against the rules. Wiz Imp Oct 2025 #43
Same here. Kingofalldems Oct 2025 #46
Wrong about WHICH tariffs? DFW Oct 2025 #47
DOW -750 NASDAQ -695 S&P -155 Emile Oct 2025 #48
For those who thought that the author of this article was full of shit, but weren't sure, this should clinch it. Wiz Imp Oct 2025 #50
WAPO OP/ED page is a hard R now obamanut2012 Oct 2025 #51
Trump DELAYED most of the tariffs, so there is no 6months in blm Oct 2025 #55
Thank you for the having the courage to post this - at the risk of being flamed, I'm not surprised at all by this. Midwestern Democrat Oct 2025 #57
You could read Krugman and learn a few things. BootinUp Oct 2025 #59
There seems to be an agenda here Keepthesoulalive Oct 2025 #58
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