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highplainsdem

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56. If you'd talked to the near-suicidal artists, writers and teachers (who see their students being dumbed down)
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:26 AM
Oct 2025

that I've met over the last few years, you'd understand that "adapting a little bit" and viewing generative AI as somehow good isn't okay unless you're willing to accept education and human culture being destroyed by genAI companies, for the profit of AI companies.

The AI companies have admitted their tools won't work worth a damn unless they're allowed to rip off the world's intellectual property. OpenAI has admitted in court that their tools need more training data than what's in the public domain and what they're willing to pay for.

Some AI bros - billionaires - have even recommended getting rid of all intellectual property laws if the AI companies have to abide by them. The billionaires will still find ways to punish anyone who steals their intellectual property, but they don't want others to have that right.

You saw how quickly the AI bros lined up to kiss Trump's ass and bribe him.

They're not intending to give people access to genAI for free, or for low prices, indefinitely. Both OpenAI and Perplexity AI have floated the idea of charging individual users as much as $1,000 a month. But they need the users hooked on using genAI first, feeling they can't get by without it.

Marketing genAI to individuals, they talk about it saving time and increasing productivity (neither of which it does, if you factor in the time needed to spot and correct the inevitable genAI errors).

Marketing AI to businesses, they focus on using AI so workers can be laid off. Sam Altman of OpenAI has said that the new dream in Silicon Valley is billion dollar companies with just the founder/owner/CEO and NO employees, because God forbid any of the profit have to be shared.

The AI companies are well aware of the harm they're causing - all of it. They. Don't. Care.

But we don't have to cooperate with their goal of steamrolling human society with the single most harmful non-weapon tech ever developed (and I probably should say single most harmful tech, period, because they're trying to get genAI crammed into as many weapon and surveillance systems as possible, even knowing the high error rate).

It's astonishing to me that they've managed to convince so many people that the high error rate with genAI is acceptable. I've seen people try to compare genAI to calculators, but calculators would never have become widely used tech if they made so many mistakes that the calculator companies had to include warnings to check all answers yourself, especially for anything important, like the standard warnings with genAI.

No one needs to use this harmful, flawed technology - which is NOT intended to benefit humanity, but to exploit it.

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de rec (for posting nothing but AI slop) Celerity Oct 2025 #1
actually, its not slop. I played a core part in framing and editing of this. Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #2
Non sequitur. I never it was an attempt at passing it off as human made. Celerity Oct 2025 #6
That sounds human supremacist! Polybius Oct 2025 #57
Your use of ChatGPT is unethical, if you're aware of the many news stories and the many posts here highplainsdem Oct 2025 #7
and if I did this on my own? Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #9
Yes. Of course. It would be your own work. The difference is obvious. Just as there's an obvious highplainsdem Oct 2025 #11
So... a PHD dude in 1970 has 12 understudies... Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #18
Please look up the meaning of "understudy" because you obviously don't know it. highplainsdem Oct 2025 #49
Yes. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #14
That is much too extreme a view. yardwork Oct 2025 #25
No, it isn't. If you're using AI without being forced to do so by your job or school, and you're aware highplainsdem Oct 2025 #43
Take a breath.............. Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #53
Jeez. I actually DON'T use AI to write or create anything. yardwork Oct 2025 #55
If you'd talked to the near-suicidal artists, writers and teachers (who see their students being dumbed down) highplainsdem Oct 2025 #56
How was Celerity disingenuous? obamanut2012 Oct 2025 #32
That was interesting. 2naSalit Oct 2025 #3
Write it yourself. Don't use an unethical tool trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem Oct 2025 #8
And write it in longhand with a quill pen and homemade ink. yardwork Oct 2025 #27
Stop being so silly. No one suggested that. I love tech that actually helps, and I had an HP laser printer highplainsdem Oct 2025 #44
One of my concerns... 2naSalit Oct 2025 #35
You don't want it stealing YOUR stuff, but you're fine with it being trained on all the writing by other people highplainsdem Oct 2025 #45
Whoa there... 2naSalit Oct 2025 #50
I don't use AI, but I've been doing this for years (just for fun). Latest example: DFW Oct 2025 #4
pretty cool... Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #5
That's GREAT! Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed reading and humming-along. QueerDuck Oct 2025 #10
AI is the machine gun in WW1 part 3 Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #12
There's nothing creative about shooting a gun. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2025 #33
Exactly. And there's nothing creative about having genAI do something for you. highplainsdem Oct 2025 #47
The people who'll be hurt by AI tools that dumb them down are not the ones refusing to participate highplainsdem Oct 2025 #46
Boring and vague. Not a fan of the original, but at least the wordplay and references in it mean something. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #13
A fair opinion Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #15
"wrecks the environment"????? Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #16
Damage to the envirinment is just one of a number of harms from genAI and the data centers being highplainsdem Oct 2025 #17
This is a deep subject Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #20
There's no way to use genAI built on theft ethically. That's like saying you'll use slave labor ethically. highplainsdem Oct 2025 #22
did you actually read what I wrote? Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #23
Yes. Which is why you got that response. You wrote: highplainsdem Oct 2025 #41
A guy from my office showed me what one of those programs could do DFW Oct 2025 #31
We can try to prevent worse from happening, or we can let it happen by saying "we've already come so far, why not WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #19
I'm not fighting for anything here... Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #21
Fighting for open-mindedness? About something that reduces creativity, reduces brain activity, plagiarizes art WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #24
What? Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #28
. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #34
Thank you for catching this and calling it out. ms liberty Oct 2025 #36
user name checks out eShirl Oct 2025 #26
Quite a poignant poem WestMichRad Oct 2025 #29
yea... unfortunate Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #30
Weird Al Yankovich never had to use AI. ms liberty Oct 2025 #37
same applies to spell check... Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #39
An inspiration by itself isn't music, or a book, or a painting. Just having an idea does not entitle you highplainsdem Oct 2025 #48
I'm not pretending Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #58
Ethics is not a separate topic. It's inherent when this tech exists only because of stolen IP. The fact highplainsdem Oct 2025 #59
What exactly is "American Pie" anyhow? nt Disaffected Oct 2025 #38
No replies - maybe it doesn't mean anything? Disaffected Oct 2025 #62
"American Pie" was a silly jingle GenThePerservering Oct 2025 #40
Way too much Democratic whining over this worthy portrayal of current events. (nt) Paladin Oct 2025 #42
A Prius? How American. n/t flvegan Oct 2025 #51
Exactly! Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #52
That is excellent! Thanks! Owl Oct 2025 #54
considering the environmental and ethical issues involving this kind of slop Blue_Adept Oct 2025 #60
"AI is a Ponzi scheme designed to harvest large investments....a way to destroy IP for the individual and vest it to the highplainsdem Oct 2025 #61
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