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34. Capitalism

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:22 AM

Dec 2012

means using capital (money) to make money. Back then, it wasn't so much capitalism as complete lassiez-faire libertarian anarchy backed by acceptance by the monarchy or whatever ruling system. Basically, it was the transition from feudalism to capitalism.

I'm not a 100% fan of capitalism, but what Marx and others were fighting against wasn't so much capitalism as it was plutocracy and fascism. When the rich use their capital to buy votes and legislators to write laws in their favor, that's not capitalism. It's fascism. True capitalism allows for people's monetary bets to lose and a capitalist has to accept that potential loss. Those who are too scared to lose use the capital to buy legislators to modify the rules to help them not lose the money. Well, bullshit and Marx, et al, was right to call on their demise.

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Which ties in to the economic exploitation epitomized by the capitalist system......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #30

Capitalism adieu Dec 2012 #34

True that Marx wasn't so much "against" capitalism as he was.......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #36

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