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William Seger

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13. It's a pet peeve of mine, but "right-wing populist" is an oxymoron
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 03:57 PM
Oct 2025

... at least, by the historic meaning of those terms. A "populist" is (or was) someone who sees politics as a struggle between the common people (the populace) and the elites (the rich and powerful) and promotes the best interests of the populace. A "right-winger" was originally the label given to Frenchmen after the French Revolution who wanted to continue with a monarchy and its privileged class — they just wanted a different king — rather than a democracy.

On the other hand, a right-wing demagogue will typically try to gather political support from the populace by appealing to their fears, prejudices, and resentments, promising to make everything better by returning to an imaginary previous glory, typically including retribution for a scapegoat ethnic group that it claims is harming society, but in reality, they support a stratified a society with an authoritarian leader who supports an oligarchy class. They are overwhelmingly "reactionary" (knee-jerk anti-liberal) which isn't really the same thing as "conservative."

My problem with calling these demagogues populists means we don't have a good word for the original meaning.

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David. The problem is... lame54 Oct 2025 #1
Only foolish people tuned him out 'years ago.' He (as do many) changes and grows. elleng Oct 2025 #3
He helped create this but... lame54 Oct 2025 #4
Did you click on the link and read the Atlantic article? red dog 1 Oct 2025 #6
Compassionate Conservatism is infinitely more paltable than MAGA. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2025 #21
Not only has he mellowed some, but the key is that intelligent thoughtful people can make us think. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #5
Thanks elleng Oct 2025 #8
The problem is that people don't read anymore, unless it is in a meme. Bev54 Oct 2025 #17
But WE read. WE are reading it. Some among us attack us for reading it and thinking about it. How dare we! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #19
Thanks, Bernardo Hekate Oct 2025 #31
And aren't the Marcos back? nycbos Oct 2025 #2
Isn't tRump back? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #7
Yes, they are. The current president of the Philippines is the son of Ferdinand Marcos. red dog 1 Oct 2025 #9
I've been to the Philippines. My partner is from there. I was there for Christmas. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2025 #23
Ugh...sweet f-ing lisa marie... maspaha Oct 2025 #10
Mia Farrow self-owns. (Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jr. is the current President of the Philippines) Celerity Oct 2025 #11
That doesn't invalidate Brooks' (Farrow's) point. There are two phases. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #15
It was a poor, poor example. nt Celerity Oct 2025 #25
"Don't throw out the baby with the bath water" red dog 1 Oct 2025 #38
Brooks has a "no atheist in a foxhole" epiphany and runs Gaugamela Oct 2025 #12
It's a pet peeve of mine, but "right-wing populist" is an oxymoron William Seger Oct 2025 #13
IIRC, populist movements are inherently neither left nor right. They take on the coloration of their current leaders. Hekate Oct 2025 #30
I can agree with that, but I don't call them populists unless they actually oppose the oligarchs William Seger Oct 2025 #34
Populists and Progressives were in alliance at the end of the 19th/beginning of the 20th century Hekate Oct 2025 #32
So we need roughly 2 million people to protest for 3 days. Then if we take back the power we need chowder66 Oct 2025 #14
The Philippines had about 42 million people in 1980, versus 342 million Americans in 2025 Hekate Oct 2025 #33
It was mostly held in metro Manila. chowder66 Oct 2025 #35
Possibly I need to clarify. In order to reach a proportionate number of people, America needs a lot more than 2million Hekate Oct 2025 #36
The "IRC", the Interconnected Resistance Coalition. I like it. I'll sign up! We'll do coordinated boycotts, general Exp Oct 2025 #16
The enemy of my enemy is my friend 2na fisherman Oct 2025 #18
+1 red dog 1 Oct 2025 #37
Yup. Joinfortmill Oct 2025 #20
Republicans need to be barred from Independence Day celebrations until they renounce trumpism. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2025 #22
David Brooks, way late as usual. Paladin Oct 2025 #24
I agree Skittles Oct 2025 #27
I loves me some Mia Skittles Oct 2025 #26
A lot of you won't want to hear this. So saddle up. Justice Brandeis Oct 2025 #28
Here's the meat of it, and he is not wrong... Hekate Oct 2025 #29
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