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K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #1
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #2
This gun owner agrees with you. flvegan Dec 2012 #3
I said I was hiding! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #9
They are used for target shooting also. upaloopa Dec 2012 #4
I am curious what kind of (target) shooting do use a 30 round doc03 Dec 2012 #25
I am a woman and I shoot at regular targets Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #33
But if your 'fun' hobby endangers society at large renie408 Dec 2012 #81
I was only answering the posters question Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #100
But why is there a need for a 30 round magazine? If you are shooting at a doc03 Dec 2012 #236
I am hitting the target. I am a good shot. Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #252
There is no need for a 30 round magazine unless you want to doc03 Dec 2012 #259
"There is no need for a 30 round magazine unless you want to kill people." PavePusher Dec 2012 #272
My suggestion sign up, suit up and go over to Afghanistan if you doc03 Dec 2012 #273
Been in the USAF for 22+ years. PavePusher Dec 2012 #274
Go back over play out your fantasies. You are another one those people that doc03 Dec 2012 #275
Thanks for the rational conversation. Good night. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #276
High Power Rifle is a specific format of competitive shooting hack89 Dec 2012 #57
why do you need 30 rounds to shoot target? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #77
We could make do with 10 round mags hack89 Dec 2012 #123
Well then, those folks are going to have to find another way to compete. renie408 Dec 2012 #82
No - Senator Feinstein's AWB is not retroactive hack89 Dec 2012 #120
Legitimate sport use can be easily accommodated. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #65
Why on earth is shooting a gun at a target considered a "sport"? LTX Dec 2012 #111
Like all other sports, ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #126
And who is determined as the winner in Newtown Connecticut? calimary Dec 2012 #169
And you win the Inappropriately Inaccurate Insinuation Analogy Award for the day. PavePusher Dec 2012 #212
Shame on you for thinking the Newtown murders are games.... ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #244
So playing a game of Monopoly is a sport? n/t LTX Dec 2012 #183
A board game? You know better than that. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #243
It isnt a sport nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #136
Reality seems to rebut you. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #211
There is also a Zen mind aspect to shoot that people have failed to mention. socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #156
Zen and the art of mass murder - LTX Dec 2012 #181
Archery, discuss throw, javelin, fencing, boomerang... HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #202
You obviously don't know anything about it. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #210
well said farminator3000 Dec 2012 #76
My Yugoslavian Mauser was "made for killing (in war)". PavePusher Dec 2012 #208
Why don't you like ducks? former-republican Dec 2012 #5
I like roasted duck! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #10
yikes former-republican Dec 2012 #11
ducks are fun! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #79
AGREED. I don't want to hear about your freedom-freedom being taken away calimary Dec 2012 #6
The concept is much bigger than your thinking shintao Dec 2012 #70
no farminator3000 Dec 2012 #86
Guess you can't wrap you head around it. shintao Dec 2012 #105
"Yes, freedom does require responsibility and it is time you become responsible for freedom." calimary Dec 2012 #172
Don't let this pretender "patriot" billh58 Dec 2012 #139
This message was self-deleted by its author shintao Dec 2012 #142
i salute you, billh58! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #161
Only a Fool shintao Dec 2012 #189
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #194
The 2nd Amendment billh58 Dec 2012 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author shintao Dec 2012 #112
The current "interpretations" of the 2nd Amendment LTX Dec 2012 #114
This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Dec 2012 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author shintao Dec 2012 #132
You know, this is a nice personal attack nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #134
Thanks, and I also billh58 Dec 2012 #138
Thanks for sound advice shintao Dec 2012 #144
What about the declaration of independence Toronto Dec 2012 #176
Sounds like you wandered over from Freeperville Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #141
We have actually done that many times (visiting the local VA hospital and the combat veterans calimary Dec 2012 #160
If you're in this thread arguing in favor of assault weapons, you're my enemy DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #256
pro gun control arguments - always more equolent farminator3000 Dec 2012 #80
Your rationality is irrational MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #7
Why another top-level me-too thread? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #8
The 223 round... jal777 Dec 2012 #12
Yep, it is as blatent pipoman Dec 2012 #14
Ummmmm........... Amaril Dec 2012 #75
he didn't even mention .223 farminator3000 Dec 2012 #87
What do you think he's talking about pipoman Dec 2012 #232
Dead Is Dead Well Informed Or Not - As A Citizen I Can Work to Criminalize Gun Ownership cantbeserious Dec 2012 #24
Yes, heaven forfend you should actually know what you were attempting to criminalize. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #31
Trying to criminalize the tools of mass murder in peace time. RC Dec 2012 #61
I hunt with an authentic military weapon, not even a knockoff sir pball Dec 2012 #71
It's simple, really. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #95
You can be absolutely sure that the NRA will be there to let them know everything they need to know. RC Dec 2012 #110
I've hunted with a Yugoslavian Mauser bolt-action rifle... PavePusher Dec 2012 #216
its called a gun farminator3000 Dec 2012 #88
"the details aren't important." Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #92
And there's the problem in 4 words Recursion Dec 2012 #127
here are your details. i am not interested in your opinion of them so don't reply, please farminator3000 Dec 2012 #179
So, not actually here for rational discussion, got it. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #217
The ammo I buy for hunting deer doesn't come in 30-round magazines Odin2005 Dec 2012 #54
I don't know anywhere that sells ammo in magazines Recursion Dec 2012 #128
Welcome to DU, jal777! calimary Dec 2012 #175
I wish I had this cartoon DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #13
Furthemore DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #15
While an AK-47 Jenoch Dec 2012 #38
Here we go splitting hairs again to show how AllyCat Dec 2012 #41
An AK may be "shorter round, less powder"... pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #43
You were lucky you were not shot with a full power round hack89 Dec 2012 #59
I don't even know what "full power" means in this context pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #72
I was thinking of a standard 30 caliber round hack89 Dec 2012 #74
Pardon me if I have a hard time understanding how you take such a clinical view pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #78
the man was shot in the face farminator3000 Dec 2012 #91
So you would ban all hunting rifles? nt hack89 Dec 2012 #108
i would do this farminator3000 Dec 2012 #113
So you would do nothing to stop another VT shooting? hack89 Dec 2012 #119
i would do something so you can't get any shiny black gun you want farminator3000 Dec 2012 #182
Your "solution" would not have stopped VT hack89 Dec 2012 #191
that's because VT is in the past farminator3000 Dec 2012 #204
It won't stop future VT shootings . nt hack89 Dec 2012 #223
Man, only on the internet DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #188
Thanks, Don... pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #197
Where did I say anything about benign? Jenoch Dec 2012 #90
BS pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #97
I will take pinboy's expertise DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #190
It has about the same ballistics as the .30-30 round. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #49
actually the point stands DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #187
Semi-autos have been used for hunting for over 100 years. PavePusher Dec 2012 #220
I meant lower DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #239
All of the below are excellent hunting weapons: PavePusher Dec 2012 #249
Then kindly tell DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #254
So, everything I said was accurate? Huh. PavePusher Dec 2012 #260
well, 5 shots DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #240
"Also, many gun "enthusiasts" brag about how easy it is to change a semi auto into an auto." PavePusher Dec 2012 #248
nice farminator3000 Dec 2012 #89
Typical AK ammunition is ballistically very similar to the venerable .30-30 lever-action round. PavePusher Dec 2012 #219
Really? shintao Dec 2012 #16
Sure, in a well-regulated militia. nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #18
If the aardvark401 Dec 2012 #21
"The militia" might just be all citizens. sofa king Dec 2012 #29
sorry, you got the wrong the 2nd Amendment shintao Dec 2012 #27
"well regulated" micraphone Dec 2012 #48
Lets use the correct definition of regulated, shall we? hack89 Dec 2012 #60
For purposes of a well regulated militia. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #66
Clearly if only the Feds have nukes it is a tyranny. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #69
It is pretty clear what the framers of the Constitution meant hack89 Dec 2012 #73
Why did the framers add that clause then? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #83
that is a preposterous statement farminator3000 Dec 2012 #99
Not so shintao Dec 2012 #106
The Militia is also mentioned in Amendement V NoGOPZone Dec 2012 #145
All free men were automatically enrolled in the militia hack89 Dec 2012 #149
So you're saying that the milita referred to in Amendment V NoGOPZone Dec 2012 #150
It refers to the militia after being called to federal service hack89 Dec 2012 #152
still not answering the question NoGOPZone Dec 2012 #154
US law recognizes two militias hack89 Dec 2012 #163
Therefore, in the context of the 5th, NoGOPZone Dec 2012 #168
So, under this unorganized Militia concept DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #195
No. Unorganized mean unorganized hack89 Dec 2012 #198
well, there is more than one, but yours makes no sense at all in context farminator3000 Dec 2012 #96
A well functioning militia is how it should be interperated. hack89 Dec 2012 #107
interpret this- farminator3000 Dec 2012 #184
Read the federal code hack89 Dec 2012 #193
you read it farminator3000 Dec 2012 #205
no, you got the 2nd amendment wrong farminator3000 Dec 2012 #94
Where you stand nt. shintao Dec 2012 #125
Federalist Papers? jp76 Dec 2012 #146
29 mentions the individual zero times to be exact. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #147
I was thinking of #46. jp76 Dec 2012 #155
Hamilton believed in. Strong federal government nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #162
Madison did not. jp76 Dec 2012 #246
Yup, American history trivia. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #250
yes barbtries Dec 2012 #53
still regulated shintao Dec 2012 #64
except that the NRA barbtries Dec 2012 #109
Who is the NRA? shintao Dec 2012 #130
I love creative ignorance of dependent clauses and 18th history nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #135
Why do the gun lovers use a Sharpie on that part of the 2nd Amendment? RC Dec 2012 #63
Do you feel it is "infringement".... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #34
Bazookas are legal to own. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #50
Ok, you can buy the tube. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #68
Ammo for guns, no. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #129
How is it any different? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #131
Bazooka rockets are not "small arms ammo". ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #133
Splitting hairs. They are SALW and most certainly would be part of the Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #242
FREEDUMB! FREEDUMB! FREEDUMB!!! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #55
An RKBA absolutist. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #67
former Chief Justice Burger - individual right to bear arms was “one of the greatest pieces of farminator3000 Dec 2012 #93
Go back to billh58 Dec 2012 #103
i salute you again! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #164
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #17
So you'll agree that people born into wealth are undeserving MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #19
I'll go one step further... Grins Dec 2012 #20
Not that it matters in regards to the 2nd Amendment, Jenoch Dec 2012 #39
it happens, Bosso 63 Dec 2012 #62
I've been USAF for 22 years. PavePusher Dec 2012 #221
But if I don't have an arsenal of high-powered weapons... Mister Ed Dec 2012 #22
Try something lower powered like an AR-15? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #52
Thanks, excellent suggestion! I think I'll get an AR-15... Mister Ed Dec 2012 #124
Sometimes, killing people is a legitimate solution to a dire situation. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #23
Then get a pistol. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #56
i didn't even read your post farminator3000 Dec 2012 #166
I didn't read your response either. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #173
bullshit farminator3000 Dec 2012 #177
Sometimes the only way to stop someone from hurting you is to use lethal force. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #26
Yup. krispos42 Dec 2012 #28
Stop posting facts! PavePusher Dec 2012 #222
Agreed ReRe Dec 2012 #30
PETA nuts?? Makes you sound like a moran. 1620rock Dec 2012 #32
Not it doesn't. nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #36
Well, the cartridges are under-powered for hunting. Deep13 Dec 2012 #35
Deer are not the only Jenoch Dec 2012 #40
I know. nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #47
Um.. The .223 is a very small cartridge....for the record. cliffordu Dec 2012 #37
The 30.06 is larger nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #42
Yeah, but my 30.06 doesn't use 30-round magazines, Nadine. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #58
It can nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #104
I guess I never really looked... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #116
You mean nobody uses an M1 Garand in Minnesota nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #122
It's worse than that: the only purpose of assault weapons is to kill people IN GROUPS. paulkienitz Dec 2012 #44
with all do respect according to Minnesota hunting laws duck hunters can only have 12 shells azurnoir Dec 2012 #45
Ummm, citation for that 12-rounds, please? PavePusher Dec 2012 #225
here from the mn dnr azurnoir Dec 2012 #229
Wow, that's restrictive. Thanks for the info. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #233
Yet they're one of the least used guns in crime. Dr_Scholl Dec 2012 #46
They are the most used weapon in mass shootings of innocent people. renie408 Dec 2012 #84
The number of mass shooting are on the rise, even though... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #117
Magazine capacity makes little difference in mass killings. Dr_Scholl Dec 2012 #137
Another Gungeoneer spouting billh58 Dec 2012 #143
don't hold back, dude farminator3000 Dec 2012 #170
Cleaned up and done... billh58 Dec 2012 #178
awesome! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #185
At age 72, my main billh58 Dec 2012 #200
and a sense of humor, too! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #207
Yep but the gun manufacturers have to mek money malaise Dec 2012 #51
good read farminator3000 Dec 2012 #238
Thanks malaise Dec 2012 #245
I agree completely Ohio Joe Dec 2012 #85
the last two paragraphs here sum it up farminator3000 Dec 2012 #237
If this is the case why do we not then take them from the police and government? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #98
In many European countries, the beat cops don't have guns... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #118
England is the only place I've seen that. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #121
why do you have to 'see' it? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #174
Geography101 Remmah2 Dec 2012 #241
Using that logic, I should have the goddamn RIGHT to nuclear arms. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #140
Think of neighborhood superiority nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #148
those aren't questions farminator3000 Dec 2012 #171
Fair enough... Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #101
No, no, no. You're purchase of an assault weapon compels me to do likewise because they are ASSAULT patrice Dec 2012 #157
I was just thinking about this. Trying to sort through the various assault scenarios & I came up patrice Dec 2012 #151
What are the public grounds for being concerned about private assault capabilities, latent or patrice Dec 2012 #153
You are right..... typeviic Dec 2012 #158
Hunters do use black rifles and they are definitely gaining in popularity with hunters. ... spin Dec 2012 #159
black wasn't mentioned in the title of the post farminator3000 Dec 2012 #186
I personally use the term "black rifle" or "assault style rifle" to refer to AR type ... spin Dec 2012 #199
"black rifle" is shorthand for "military-looking rifle" Recursion Dec 2012 #201
black wasn't mentioned in the title of the post farminator3000 Dec 2012 #215
I know. I'm saying it's a fairly commonly used synonym for military-style rifles Recursion Dec 2012 #218
i don't care farminator3000 Dec 2012 #224
Yep and look at the hornets nest you stirred up! Rex Dec 2012 #165
Wayne LePew nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #167
"Wayne LePew" LMAO! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #227
Where is hunting mentioned in the second amendment, again? X_Digger Dec 2012 #180
um farminator3000 Dec 2012 #192
High capacity magazines Danang1968 Dec 2012 #196
thank you, that was beautiful! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #214
Actually, violent crime is at an over-20-year low. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #226
Violent crime Danang1968 Dec 2012 #234
well played! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #235
I don't disagree entirely, and there are many things we can do to help fix the problem. PavePusher Dec 2012 #247
lower gun deaths Danang1968 Dec 2012 #251
Education, jobs, health care (including mental health), end Prohibition II.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #253
his right to be safe @ the grocery is more important to a majority of people than your right to own farminator3000 Dec 2012 #255
I open carry at Fry's grocery here in in Arizona and get complemented by the staff. PavePusher Dec 2012 #261
why don't you ask ex-congresswoman Giffords what she thinks about that? prob not so nice farminator3000 Dec 2012 #262
I carried to one of her events several years ago. PavePusher Dec 2012 #265
BS farminator3000 Dec 2012 #266
Trying to "shut down the conversation"? PavePusher Dec 2012 #270
no, i said you are spouting nonsense, multiple times farminator3000 Dec 2012 #271
lower gun deaths Danang1968 Dec 2012 #258
you can certainly take care of yourself...well played again farminator3000 Dec 2012 #263
Kind thoughts Danang1968 Dec 2012 #264
Thank you farminator3000 Dec 2012 #268
k&r... spanone Dec 2012 #269
Careful my friend. Whovian Dec 2012 #203
both money and hate farminator3000 Dec 2012 #209
Your OP made no sense whatsoever. PavePusher Dec 2012 #206
If you can't understand it that is YOUR problem, not mine. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #228
Freedumb. Best way to put it. Taverner Dec 2012 #213
I have come to cringe when somebody starts yakking about "freedom" Odin2005 Dec 2012 #230
Where do they monopolize "pro-life"? Taverner Dec 2012 #231
just a bump so people will read post #196 in this thread. it might make you cry, careful farminator3000 Dec 2012 #257
nope. i was educated by a du'er that he & pals play games & have matches with theirs. spanone Dec 2012 #267
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