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QueerDuck

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190. LOL! Yes... that's what PRIMARIES are all about.

Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:53 PM

Oct 22

I understand your concern about negative campaigning and "bashing" ... however, the rule against actual (not imagined) bashing/attacking and insulting Democrats is intended for the general election, where the goal is to unite behind the party's nominee. We're not at that stage yet.

Reasonable adults understand that the PRIMARY process is, by its very nature, a contest where we evaluate and contrast the strengths and weaknesses of different candidates to choose the best one to represent the party. Pointing out a candidate's record or potential liabilities and baggage, or their demeanor and temperament, or any evidence of poor judgement and dishonesty, etc. is a standard part of that normal vetting process... and is not a violation of the general election rule.

Toughen-up. It's going to be a long road ahead.

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Sanders refuses to rescind endorsement of candidate sporting Nazi tattoo [View all] tritsofme Oct 21 OP

Then Why Didn't he have it Remvoed Cha Oct 21 #1

Maybe because it isn't in a conspicuous location Raven123 Oct 21 #2

it's right on his chest eShirl Oct 21 #4

To me that's not obvious Raven123 Oct 21 #5

Thank you for posting that video Very open and honest Autumn Oct 21 #30

It's a totenkopf awesomerwb1 Oct 21 #71

Did you watch his interview? He's a Democratic candidate and I will go with what he says. Autumn Oct 22 #118

Oh I watched the video. awesomerwb1 Oct 22 #158

Apparently he told a friend back in 2012 that he knew what it was. yardwork Oct 22 #184

It's a hate symbol. EllieBC Oct 21 #10

Does it matter where it is? He could easily have something tattooed over it EX500rider Oct 21 #14

only in the sense that it's front & center eShirl Oct 22 #131

That last, especially. DFW Oct 23 #245

A skull and crossbones is not inherently a 'nazi' symbol--- I associate it with pirate radio, myself, Jack Valentino Oct 21 #38

A skull and crossbones? Bettie Oct 21 #57

Yeah.... it was widely used in pirate ship flags in the 1600's and 1700's by pirates, Jack Valentino Oct 21 #62

Yeah and the Swastika is a Buddhist symbol stumpysbear Oct 21 #66

It ain't a pirate flag symbol. LudwigPastorius Oct 21 #72

Possibly---- I couldn't see it clearly enough from the video offered Jack Valentino Oct 21 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Oct 22 #125

This was the insignia worn by guards at NAZI death camps LetMyPeopleVote Oct 22 #156

This is the same symbol as the symbol on Himmler's hat LetMyPeopleVote Oct 23 #263

Good question. Only when it's politically expedient... QueerDuck Oct 22 #222

According to this account he was aware... Cha Oct 22 #224

😡🤬😡🤬 QueerDuck Oct 22 #225

Tattoo resembles an SS deaths head, I respect Sen Sanders and his hard work as a progressive but it will be up to voters yaesu Oct 21 #3

Is there a better picture of it? In the interview and the video the opposition Autumn Oct 22 #120

Since when is a "skull and crossbones" necessarily Disaffected Oct 21 #6

When it is actually literally the SS Totenkopf WhiskeyGrinder Oct 21 #11

Is it (literally)? Disaffected Oct 21 #23

Yes, it is. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 21 #31

Until I read this thread, the double-headed-eagle art concept was not part of my knowledge. John1956PA Oct 21 #41

Maybe rather than inking completely over it, add a slash in a different color karynnj Oct 22 #181

Yes. I had the same idea of the ink-over with a red-line slash. We think alike. John1956PA Oct 22 #187

Funny, I thought of the Buffet song too karynnj Oct 22 #200

AS IF some admittedly drunken Marines on liberty would KNOW that.... Jack Valentino Oct 21 #39

This candidate admits its a Nazi Tatoo IbogaProject Oct 21 #65

Do you have a link to a picture of his actual tattoo. In the video Autumn Oct 22 #148

"In the video the opposition that they sent him they are using you can only see a dark blob." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 22 #150

It's not, except when it literally IS a nazi symbol stumpysbear Oct 21 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Oct 22 #110

Well jaymac Oct 22 #133

The guy says it was a drunken mistake. He didn't have to disclose Autumn Oct 21 #7

A mistake he hasn't corrected in almost 20 years WhiskeyGrinder Oct 21 #12

Yeah so? I have a small tattoo I have had for 35 years Autumn Oct 21 #17

Tiny difference, your tattoo probably isn't celebrating Nazis. Unlike Bernie's guy tritsofme Oct 21 #18

He owned up to it, it was a drunken mistake . Autumn Oct 21 #21

Someone who is unbothered by having symbols celebrating Nazism on his body tritsofme Oct 21 #22

I watched his interview, he's very open and admits to making Autumn Oct 21 #25

It's kind of silly, at this point, to talk about him like he's still a serious candidate. tritsofme Oct 21 #27

It doesn't matter if you think he's a serious candidate or not.t Autumn Oct 21 #33

I'd be shocked if he makes it to the end of the week. tritsofme Oct 21 #34

I agree JustAnotherGen Oct 22 #169

So we are supposed to support candidates who EllieBC Oct 21 #53

Amen!!!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Oct 22 #135

Sounds more like an opportunity to "re-fight the 2016 presidential primary" Jack Valentino Oct 21 #44

The guy isn't even pretending it's not a Nazi tattoo at this point, no reason to continue that charade. tritsofme Oct 21 #49

Pfffffft. Jack Valentino Oct 21 #51

How is this refighting the 2016 primary? sheshe2 Oct 21 #67

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I was not a 'Bernie Bro'--- and stood in line to vote for Hillary in the 2016 G.E. Jack Valentino Oct 21 #75

If you think black turnout was an issue, why would you support Sanders? W_HAMILTON Oct 22 #97

bingo! sheshe2 Oct 21 #85

Wasn't ME.... Jack Valentino Oct 21 #87

2025 is where we are and what many here are talking about. nm sheshe2 Oct 21 #86

Correct. Thank you! QueerDuck Oct 22 #108

Bernie has made some questionable calls when it comes to candidates and surrogates Keepthesoulalive Oct 22 #101

oh is it a nazi tattoo WhiskeyGrinder Oct 21 #24

Well the opposition found a video that was a wedding gag Autumn Oct 21 #42

Is it a Nazi tattoo? Iggo Oct 22 #196

Ever tried to 'correct' a tattoo mistake yourself? Jack Valentino Oct 21 #40

People get tattoos covered all the time. Many, many tattooists are willing to cover/repurpose hate tattoos at a reduced WhiskeyGrinder Oct 21 #47

I don't accept your position that it is necessarily a "hate" tattoo, just for starters! Jack Valentino Oct 21 #50

You don't have to. It's the actual SS Totenkopf tattoo. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 21 #56

Perhaps my brain can see deeper than some other people.... Jack Valentino Oct 21 #58

lmao WhiskeyGrinder Oct 21 #59

or can see some motives that some people will never admit to.... Jack Valentino Oct 21 #64

So true! Emile Oct 24 #269

I'm chuckling too 🤣😂 QueerDuck Oct 22 #109

.... MarineCombatEngineer Oct 22 #113

The candidate evidently knew that it was a NAZI tattoo for a long time and called this NAZI tattoo by it correct name LetMyPeopleVote Oct 22 #219

I'm pretty sure Sen. Sanders has kacekwl Oct 22 #138

I think the same thing. Autumn Oct 22 #149

I'm with Sanders, the whole thing stnks of Miller DoBW Oct 22 #227

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 21 #8

I do. QueerDuck Oct 21 #20

We denounce EVERY Republican candidate, just for being a Republican!!! Jack Valentino Oct 21 #46

I'm glad to see so many are fine with this EllieBC Oct 21 #9

Yep, it's more than obvious. tritsofme Oct 21 #15

Bernie Sanders IS a JEW.... I am not, so I'll go with HIS judgement on the matter! Jack Valentino Oct 21 #48

So am I. EllieBC Oct 21 #54

Really.. Mahalo, Ellie... It looks like Cha Oct 21 #93

Maybe he has other reasons kacekwl Oct 22 #180

Being a Jew doesn't give someone a free pass. Guess who else is a Jew? DFW Oct 23 #248

Nope. I make my own judgements about Nazis. Iggo Oct 22 #221

The National Socialists were definitely NOT nice people. DFW Oct 23 #252

I used to go to a bar BeerBarrelPolka Oct 23 #259

Platner says he's removing it Easterncedar Oct 21 #77

...and it only took 18 years to make that decision. LudwigPastorius Oct 21 #81

Not a moral or ethical decision. QueerDuck Oct 22 #223

After it came to light. EllieBC Oct 21 #90

Embarrassing, or should be WhiskeyGrinder Oct 21 #13

Wow. That's very disappointing. QueerDuck Oct 21 #16

And now the republicans can forever say that democrats support nazis IcyPeas Oct 21 #19

That's my problem with it, yeah maybe u got it while dead drunk but why wouldn't you cover it with another tattoo? EX500rider Oct 21 #26

I was young once. RandySF Oct 21 #28

So this is how Collins gets re-elected... 0rganism Oct 21 #29

Nope, this is bad news for Collins. With Nazi tattoo guy no longer a factor in the primary, Mills can turn toward the GE tritsofme Oct 21 #32

too early to say, a lot can happen between now and election day 2026 eShirl Oct 22 #121

Very true DFW Oct 23 #251

Getting a nazi tattoo is an affirmation of one's oasis Oct 21 #35

It's NOT a FUCKING SWASTIKA, for Christ Sake!!!! That's the only 'Nazi tattoo' I know about! Jack Valentino Oct 21 #55

Newsflash! Bernie Sanders is not 100% right oasis Oct 21 #60

I don't think Bernie Sanders is 100% right on any issue either, Jack Valentino Oct 21 #80

"Not good enough, Bernie etc". oasis Oct 21 #88

Probably I was just ranting at the direction of this thread, reminding me of previous threads Jack Valentino Oct 21 #89

One word. sheshe2 Oct 21 #92

Rec x 1000 luv2fly Oct 21 #61

lol... This is about Planter. Cha Oct 21 #94

LOL &... QueerDuck Oct 22 #112

Doesn't have to be swastika to be a Nazi symbol uponit7771 Oct 22 #141

Pirate Skull and Crossbones: LudwigPastorius Oct 21 #78

Thank you! The "pirate radio" excuse sounds even sillier... QueerDuck Oct 22 #114

Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Oct 22 #157

WOW... and they're excusing That?!! Cha Oct 22 #167

Saved me the trouble, thanks! DFW Oct 23 #254

Swastikas are not the only fucking Nazi symbol fujiyamasan Oct 21 #82

"Pirate Radio" 😳...😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 QueerDuck Oct 22 #127

Doesn't have to be, just used by NAZIS is bad enough uponit7771 Oct 22 #140

which skull and crossbones would you get? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 22 #160

Has he called for intifada too? JoseBalow Oct 21 #36

Agreed but I am not surprised. I peeped Sanders game 10 years ago. nt Blasphemer Oct 21 #37

The equivocating and lack of urgency LuvLoogie Oct 21 #43

If Bernie endorsed him canetoad Oct 21 #45

🚧 ⁉️ Platner says he'll remove tattoo that resembles Nazi symbol CoopersDad Oct 21 #52

Platner regrets it now ..... relayerbob Oct 21 #68

"The View" appearance was: betsuni Oct 22 #99

Hm. sheshe2 Oct 22 #123

October 20th. betsuni Oct 22 #163

Thank you! sheshe2 Oct 22 #164

What a surprise.. "dumped on Dems again.." Cha Oct 22 #166

Nonsense. It wasn't seen as a nazi tattoo when he got it Easterncedar Oct 21 #73

I bet his Blackwater buddies were impressed though relayerbob Oct 21 #83

It has always been 100% seen as a Nazi tattoo obamanut2012 Oct 22 #128

I may be naive Mossfern Oct 22 #146

I know that show, lol Alice B. Oct 22 #183

The point is moot. Baitball Blogger Oct 21 #74

Maybe this guy really was ignorant fujiyamasan Oct 21 #79

That said, I doubt his Democratic party creds are relayerbob Oct 21 #84

It was the attack on Bernie that got me riled Easterncedar Oct 22 #130

If it weren't for all the baggage (this and the Reddit comments) fujiyamasan Oct 22 #242

Yep Easterncedar Oct 23 #256

Oh, man. herding cats Oct 21 #91

Aloha Cat... Yeah, it's not our State... Cha Oct 21 #95

A lot of this reminds me of the arguments about Fetterman over Connor Lamb, because Connor Lamb lostincalifornia Oct 21 #96

Zero tolerance on things like this for me. BannonsLiver Oct 22 #98

That sums up my stance as well. Celerity Oct 22 #100

There is right and there is wrong Dorian Gray Oct 22 #102

We don't have to be in Maine to have Cha Oct 22 #235

So, Senator Sanders wants to ignore the color on Platner's skin & judge him by his character? Tim S Oct 22 #103

If PoC sported I want to murder white people symbols doubt if Sanders would endorse them uponit7771 Oct 22 #142

I don't want another Fetterman -- do you? W_HAMILTON Oct 22 #174

So a Grand Wizard KKK tattoo would be no big deal then? Cause this is worse then that IMO EX500rider Oct 22 #236

Really? Tim S Oct 23 #261

Not for simply having a tattoo EX500rider Oct 23 #262

I trust Bernie's judgment Martin Eden Oct 22 #104

Nobody is perfect. This proves it. QueerDuck Oct 22 #115

Gabbard. Joy Gray. Turner. Fetterman. This guy. W_HAMILTON Oct 22 #175

This isnt his worst endorsement by a longshot SSJVegeta Oct 22 #105

While I trust Bernie, all the same, if I were Platner, I would do one of two things: no_hypocrisy Oct 22 #106

Interesting discussion and points made by all... Mike Nelson Oct 22 #107

"Don't have a Nazi death-head symbol on your body" seems like a low bar for a Democrat n/t Shrek Oct 22 #117

This guy seems to be swirling the bowl at this point Mysterian Oct 22 #111

Nazi tattoo: fine. Dem campaign funds: Corrupt! Billionaire oligarchs! No taking on, no fighting for working class! Bad! betsuni Oct 22 #116

Sanders is very used to making excuses.... ShadesOfBlue Oct 22 #119

Yes he is. comradebillyboy Oct 22 #161

I'd be open to hear Sanders explain more about why he thinks this guy has changed Mysterian Oct 22 #122

Is this thread intended to dissuade people Emile Oct 22 #124

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Perfectly acceptable during primaries, right? QueerDuck Oct 22 #132

One would think so Hekate Oct 22 #137

Well, yes... that's what I thought. Yet it seems like some have already "anointed" him as the party's nominee... QueerDuck Oct 22 #171

Is it perfectly acceptable Emile Oct 22 #170

Ridiculous. Nobody is being "viciously denigrated." QueerDuck Oct 22 #172

Constructive criticism is okay. This could be construed as bashing. and comparing one Emile Oct 22 #179

LOL! Yes... that's what PRIMARIES are all about. QueerDuck Oct 22 #190

Bashing and tearing down our candidates is not constructive. Emile Oct 22 #191

He's in a primary. He's not the anointed nominee. He must EARN that privilege and honor. QueerDuck Oct 22 #193

Do you think calling a democratic politician a NAZI Emile Oct 22 #195

Nobody has done that... not that I can find in this thread. Every time the word "Nazi" is used... QueerDuck Oct 22 #203

So you don't think he's a NAZI? Emile Oct 22 #204

JFC, Emile! Give me a fucking break! You know perfectly well that I never said such a thing. QueerDuck Oct 22 #207

What's your opinion of Zohran Mamdani? Emile Oct 22 #209

LOL! That's not the topic of this thread, Emile. QueerDuck Oct 22 #212

Can you send me a link? I have no memory ever Emile Oct 22 #214

Sorry. Not my problem. QueerDuck Oct 22 #215

I didn't think you could back that up. Adios Emile Oct 22 #216

Again. Not my problem. Deal with it. QueerDuck Oct 22 #217

Adios Emile Oct 22 #218

Okay! Just want to Thank You Cha Oct 22 #237

Yes. He has to earn the votes. Feet held to the fire. People will vote their conscience. No cheerleaders. betsuni Oct 23 #250

So, questioning him having a Nazi tattoo is fair game, but if he was to win the primary, we must defend him having it? MichMan Oct 22 #228

He won't win. QueerDuck Oct 22 #231

There are other candidates in the Democratic primary, including one that is, in my opinion, MUCH preferable to this guy. W_HAMILTON Oct 22 #176

That's great you have a preference. But Emile Oct 22 #185

He doesn't have a general election opponent -- he has a Democratic primary opponent. Several, actually. W_HAMILTON Oct 22 #188

Politics is not for the thin-skinned, is it? QueerDuck Oct 22 #194

Just because one is ignorant of WW2 history Stacey Grove Oct 22 #126

Apparently Platner is well versed in WWII history MichMan Oct 22 #229

I'd even bet DFW Oct 23 #255

To be fair, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei is kinda of a mouthful. EX500rider Oct 23 #265

The Europeans do love their abbreviations. DFW Oct 23 #266

After all the crap from the right does. Blue Full Moon Oct 22 #134

A week or so ago Senator Sanders said that Governor Mills should exit the race Quiet Em Oct 22 #136

When did Bernie get to decide who could or couldn't comradebillyboy Oct 22 #162

I think 14 democrats voting kacekwl Oct 22 #139

I wish I could afford to ignore racist symbols like that uponit7771 Oct 22 #143

The head of the DoD has what some consider a nazi tatoo kacekwl Oct 22 #147

Republicans being ok with Nazis isn't new and it's not a problem for Democrats. Maru Kitteh Oct 22 #151

He's not even the nominee 🙄 QueerDuck Oct 22 #153

The symbols on his body aren't his words and beliefs?!?; Some privileged right there man uponit7771 Oct 23 #246

Why would they do that? Emile Oct 22 #144

Was one of them Fetterman, another Sanders-backed """progressive""" at one point? W_HAMILTON Oct 22 #177

We were All fooled by Fetterman. kacekwl Oct 22 #182

Maybe so, but I wasn't fooled by a lot of other questionable characters Sanders has surrounded himself with... W_HAMILTON Oct 22 #186

I won't bash Senator Sanders. I wish we had more Emile Oct 22 #189

***THIS!!!** 👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿 uponit7771 Oct 23 #247

Not everyone. sheshe2 Oct 22 #232

My stepfather had a Nazi tattoo. OilemFirchen Oct 22 #145

If it's a skull with what looks like the bones are coming Klarkashton Oct 22 #152

Kinda not great to see a lot of people handwaving away a nazi tattoo on a Democrat! WhiskeyGrinder Oct 22 #154

One poster says they will get their own Nazi tattoo now because Bernie Maru Kitteh Oct 22 #159

The insignia - death skull - was worn exclusively by SS guards at death camps LetMyPeopleVote Oct 22 #155

Abhorrent and shocking! Seriously disappointed with Sanders. I feel like maybe reaching cognitive disorders? msfiddlestix Oct 22 #165

Sanders always returns to the Independent Column JustAnotherGen Oct 22 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 22 #173

I'm going to give Plantner a pass on this until I hear more from him and another pass to Sanders for the...... FadedMullet Oct 22 #178

Nope. No pass for Nazis. (Even if they're just a wannabe Nazi.) Iggo Oct 22 #198

If you are comfortable with the information that you have, to be able to call him a Nazi, then you must have...... FadedMullet Oct 22 #241

And yet Pelosi, Hoyer, Jeffries, and Clyburn endorsed Henry Cuellar, Rob H. Oct 22 #192

Cuellar wasn't a Nazi, either real or wannabe. Iggo Oct 22 #197

Who is a Nazi? Emile Oct 22 #201

As I edited my post above, Platner says he's since gotten it covered Rob H. Oct 22 #202

Cuellar was subsequently indicted for bribery, conspiracy to commit bribery, Rob H. Oct 22 #205

Breaking: Tattoo covered. Reconsider animosity posts please. GreenWave Oct 22 #199

Thanks for that and thanks for the link Rob H. Oct 22 #206

Yes... covered, but only just now... when it's politically expedient. QueerDuck Oct 22 #208

Thank you. By the color of the ink, it's been covered Emile Oct 22 #213

If he is not smart enough to know that he has a nazi concentration camp symbol Bluestocking Oct 22 #210

Bingo! This! QueerDuck Oct 22 #226

There is nothing in this guys bio that suggests he is a racist. everyonematters Oct 22 #211

When he was a bartender, he said "Black people don't tip" MichMan Oct 22 #230

Except for his Nazi tattoo. Iggo Oct 22 #234

Has he made his point and it is time to end the campaign? Torchlight Oct 27 #270

MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Oct 22 #220

Why is Twitter being considered a source? ificandream Oct 22 #233

Seems like a lot of pearl clutching over some superficial nonsense from his military past. thought crime Oct 22 #238

You don't see a problem with his homophobic statements? MichMan Oct 22 #240

It is obviously a political problem. But I accept his explanation and apologies. thought crime Oct 22 #243

IMO, It's shit stirring from the elite resistance wanting a centrist. Emile Oct 23 #260

According to Sanders, it is the "corrupt campaign finance system" that deserves the blame MichMan Oct 22 #239

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 23 #244

I agree with this. It's a bad look. He needs to walk away from a horribly vetted Platner. Celerity Oct 23 #253

First rule: All dysfunction in government caused by money in politics, both sides controlled by billionaire oligarchs. betsuni Oct 23 #257

sadly the nazi's had good icons. this one is on the bottom + does not scream nazi. pansypoo53219 Oct 23 #249

Yes it does if you read all the information Cha Oct 23 #267

Then Sanders is wrong, and he needs to hear it from us. mucholderthandirt Oct 23 #258

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 23 #264

The image in the tattoo is the same as the one on Nazi headgear for some branches LetMyPeopleVote Oct 24 #268