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Behind the Aegis

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50. Are you surprised that some are defending this and him?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:29 PM
Oct 2025

It's rhetorical. I know you aren't in the least bit surprised. Only two things surprised me and that was a handful of posters who came out against it (and him). There are a few names that shocked me. And two comments that were like a punch in the gut, one was more like a knife to the gut, but that person changed their mind (whew!).

The fact this comes AFTER the "No Kings Rally" which was all about the Antifa, and we have posters and people, in general, supporting someone sporting a tattoo that is LITERALLY a mark of one of the worst fascist governments EVER!

Frankly, I am surprised we haven't heard the musings of another fascist "It is what it is" and "There were very good people on both sides". Will I be surprised when, not if, it comes to that? Nope!

Ignorance: Not knowing
Stupidity: Knowing and still doing it!

If he got that tattoo 20 years ago, then realized what it was and removed it/covered it up upon learning what it REALLY was, it wouldn't have been a huge issue, IMO. However, the fact that he still sports it (until apparently today), and people are putting forth pathetic excuses like "Well, I didn't know what it was (so the fuck what?!)" or "A Jew says it is OK!" just shows how low some will go, and not necessarily to win, but to disregard the feelings of a certain (((minority))).

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How "Nazi" must a tattoo be [View all] sarisataka Oct 2025 OP
The tattoo was a symbol used by the SS. RandySF Oct 2025 #1
Platner's tattoo: sop Oct 2025 #2
Honestly, I wouldn't have recognized that as a Nazi tattoo. yardwork Oct 2025 #6
You wouldn't but a white supremacist would, and they would thank you Maru Kitteh Oct 2025 #13
Getting it MAY have been a mistake of ignorance sarisataka Oct 2025 #14
I would say look to the intentions. I have changed my thoughts on this as well. MatthewStLouis Oct 2025 #67
Your's is the most thoughtful post I've read on this topic. thought crime Oct 2025 #70
thank you for a sensible mind! jaymac Oct 2025 #31
I changed my mind. Read the rest of this thread. yardwork Oct 2025 #32
Recognized that image immediately even from a way blurrier picture. rogue emissary Oct 2025 #33
Well, I've changed my mind after reading this thread. yardwork Oct 2025 #35
Saw your post and that is honestly big of you to do. rogue emissary Oct 2025 #37
I never mind saying that I was wrong or changed my mind. yardwork Oct 2025 #57
The military didn't either. Mz Pip Oct 2025 #34
It's a non-issue for MAGAt Republicans MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2025 #43
Then you are not well educated regarding World War II Mysterian Oct 2025 #66
You're right. I don't know much about WWII. yardwork Oct 2025 #68
It's a blur... lame54 Oct 2025 #17
It's a very poor image, a still frame from a bad video. In the flesh it was probably more clear. sop Oct 2025 #21
"Are we the baddies?" WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #3
That came to my mind as well. 😂🤣 QueerDuck Oct 2025 #12
gosh what's that on his hat, never seen anything like it before WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #15
I thought I saw one before, Fla_Democrat Oct 2025 #41
Nazi is Nazi. There are no degrees. Solly Mack Oct 2025 #4
He says he didn't realize it was associated with Nazis. yardwork Oct 2025 #7
I don't know what he did and did not know. I couldn't swear to it in a court of law anyway. Solly Mack Oct 2025 #10
An acquaintance apparently said he knew in 2012 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2025 #19
Well, that sounds very bad. yardwork Oct 2025 #22
Yikes. So at the very LEAST, thirteen years ago he knew he had a NAZI tattoo and Maru Kitteh Oct 2025 #25
A lot of other questionable stuff has come up with this guy as well. W_HAMILTON Oct 2025 #23
Just reading this thread is raising more alarms. yardwork Oct 2025 #24
According to the conspiracy theories, the Democratic Establishment only allows ancient centrists to run for office. betsuni Oct 2025 #39
I think it's complicated by knowledge of the origin EdmondDantes_ Oct 2025 #5
I don't have a history degree and recognize a Totenkopf immediately sarisataka Oct 2025 #16
The military medical personnel didn't flag it as problematic EdmondDantes_ Oct 2025 #20
I'd say Africa Corp palm tree for top 3 myself, but the SS skull close to tied EX500rider Oct 2025 #28
Yeah, just because I wouldn't have known what Cha Oct 2025 #38
I'm gonna ForgedCrank Oct 2025 #8
"tattoo removal is painful and expensive so I can't blame the guy" TheProle Oct 2025 #44
You zeroed ForgedCrank Oct 2025 #49
My point was your statement could be read as trying to diminish his responsibility based on cost. TheProle Oct 2025 #53
Yes, I ForgedCrank Oct 2025 #55
Sometimes discussions work that way TheProle Oct 2025 #58
Your point ForgedCrank Oct 2025 #59
Look at you outsmarting folks! TheProle Oct 2025 #61
Sarisataka wait until you hear about the 1919 on his bicep EDIT: NEW PHOTO, NOT NAZI RELATED WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #9
Maybe it was the year his grandfather was born sarisataka Oct 2025 #11
FWIW: demmiblue Oct 2025 #42
Folkish Heathen Norse coded obamanut2012 Oct 2025 #26
You mean the tattoo he just got? yardwork Oct 2025 #30
No Polybius Oct 2025 #48
Here ya go: Polybius Oct 2025 #47
This was the insignia worn by guards at NAZI death camps LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #18
Is Ro Khanna supporting this guy, too? LuvLoogie Oct 2025 #40
I'm astonished by the excuses being made by some here mcar Oct 2025 #27
I defended him at first. yardwork Oct 2025 #29
It's been incredibly disheartening. Blue_Adept Oct 2025 #36
The insignia - death skull - was worn exclusively by SS guards at death camps LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #45
Not completely exclusive sarisataka Oct 2025 #52
This is still a NAZI tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #54
Most definitely sarisataka Oct 2025 #63
Every SS cap from 1934 on had the Totenkopf... WarGamer Oct 2025 #69
We really need to get better vetting our own.. nini Oct 2025 #46
Are you surprised that some are defending this and him? Behind the Aegis Oct 2025 #50
Not in the least sarisataka Oct 2025 #64
The symbol is still used today and not by Nazi. Melon Oct 2025 #51
If this tattoo is the same as the symbol on Himmler's hat, then it is a NAZI symbol LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #56
The tattoo is consistent with his stated beliefs iemanja Oct 2025 #60
The symbol was also used by the Wehrmacht's Panzer Corps, and tank crewmen wore it on their uniforms. Aristus Oct 2025 #62
The image in the tattoo is a NAZI symbol LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #65
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