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xocetaceans

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14. Very interesting. It is good that he came out and clarified things. It is funny what happens in elections . . .
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:54 PM
Oct 2025

. . . when the Democratic Party tries to cleave to Wall Street . . . or maybe not so funny. Sec. Clinton failed against Trump . . . VP Harris failed against Trump . . . . That might be a pattern that should be considered. It seems that there is no world in which the Democratic Party can win while running candidates that don't center the message that turning toward greater economic populism is the most important change they want to make if elected.

It is often said that the current election (whenever an election is occurring) is the most important election ever: well, this time it is actually that. More unchecked time in office for Trump means less or no democracy in the USA.

If the Senate election in Maine is to be won by Democrats, perhaps it is time for Sen. Schumer and Rep. Jeffries to look at the reality of politics as seen through the lens of the success of Zohran Mamdani.

Gov. Mills is purportedly Sen. Schumer's political project. Who did he support in 2016 and in 2024? Maybe that should be a lesson to him and to the Democratic Party. "If you go old, they'll stay home" could be a parody of Field of Dreams that the Democratic Party should consider.

However, will they consider that?

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Jeffries, Schumer keep refusing to endorse Mamdani
October 21, 2025 | 12:56 PM CDT

Nearly four months after Zohran Mamdani became the Democratic nominee for New York mayor, the two top Democrats in Congress are still withholding their endorsement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/jeffries-schumer-keep-refusing-to-endorse-mamdani/2025/10/21/2e71cdb2-19fd-4d4a-841b-b297d0ae98b8_video.html


It appears that answer is in the negative.

Gee . . . I wonder how that will work out when they successfully displace Platner, put Mills in the race, and the election is held . . .

I expect the same result as Clinton versus Trump and also as Harris versus Trump. Should Collins be relatively easy to defeat? Yes, but at least we'll always have the strongly worded letters that we can read for solace.

Also, recall that when pressed to change healthcare fundamentally, a Republican plan was selected, and RomneyCare became Obamacare. And recall that the financial collapse at the end of Bush's second term was met not with the prosecution of bankers, but with their bailout and the loss of homes for many of the people who were greatly disadvantaged by that collapse. Was the groundswell of support that Obama received to defeat McCain repeated in the midterm elections? No. It was clear by then that the needed changes to help people were being slow walked or done in half measures. Calls for single payer healthcare were met by the a protestation from within the White House that the left is "fucking retarded".

History goes forward from there: the Tea Party, Boehner's government shutdown, . . . RBG's demise, McConnel's refusal to hold hearings for Garland, Clinton's loss, etc.

So, here we are now. I hope that the Democratic Party will learn something from its semi-recent history of abject failure (What else can losing to Trump twice be politely called?) and lean into progressive, economic populism as manifested by the new field of younger candidates. If the senior Democrats refuse to modernize and continue to hold on to power individually in the way that RBG did without regard for retiring and making way for younger voices, their collective legacy might be to do to the USA as a whole what RBG's refusal to retire except by death did to the Supreme Court.


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This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #1
Blaming your own fuckups on "Elites" is JD Vance level populist demagoguery Jose Garcia Oct 2025 #2
Very interesting. It is good that he came out and clarified things. It is funny what happens in elections . . . xocetaceans Oct 2025 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #16
His platform has a lot of similarities to Mandani. MichMan Oct 2025 #38
You might want reread that sentence and that section, because you aren't following it. n/t xocetaceans Oct 2025 #42
Zohran Mamdani is an excellent candidate and a breath of fresh air Quiet Em Oct 2025 #23
He attacks the victims but not the perpetrators. That's a serious red flag IMO but I'm not a voter in Maine. chowder66 Oct 2025 #4
That quote is terrible and shows a complete lack of respect for women karynnj Oct 2025 #9
Look, it's great when people grow and evolve and become better people Quiet Em Oct 2025 #3
Would anyone here defend him if a Republican had a Nazi tatto? nycbos Oct 2025 #5
Same old the-establishment-is-out-to-get-me-will-stop-at-nothing-because-they-are-TERRIFIED conspiracy theory. betsuni Oct 2025 #6
lol that ain't how it works bud. This lefty working class asshole says fuck off. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #7
Post removed Post removed Oct 2025 #8
n/s JustAnotherGen Oct 2025 #11
Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner admits using 'indefensible' antigay slurs in unearthed Reddit posts MichMan Oct 2025 #10
Oh! So we're talking about this here now? herding cats Oct 2025 #15
Wah wah tattoo tattoo -- wake up DoBW Oct 2025 #12
Wake up Quiet Em Oct 2025 #25
Sure. It's the "elites" (code word) who are out to get him. 🙄 herding cats Oct 2025 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #40
You don't need to be "elite" to know a con job when you see one. Blasphemer Oct 2025 #17
The real nazis wear masks, zip tie kids, and kidnap people off the streeets DoBW Oct 2025 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #19
and the masters DoBW Oct 2025 #22
What does that even have to do with a weak ass candidate in a Democratic primary?! herding cats Oct 2025 #24
Defend this. herding cats Oct 2025 #20
Yeah...not doing the Steven Miller hate schtick... sorry DoBW Oct 2025 #26
Sure you are. herding cats Oct 2025 #28
nice try DoBW Oct 2025 #30
Bazinga? herding cats Oct 2025 #31
The Schumer alternative looks "highly problematic". thought crime Oct 2025 #27
His own words and actions aren't an attack on him EdmondDantes_ Oct 2025 #21
Politics has changed. We need candidates who project energy and charisma. And some youth, please. thought crime Oct 2025 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #32
Let's see how it plays out DoBW Oct 2025 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #34
Dude! Seriously, stop with the bot speak! herding cats Oct 2025 #35
Yawn DoBW Oct 2025 #36
Now do Scotsmen! TheProle Oct 2025 #41
Yawn! johnp3907 Oct 2025 #37
Fuck this guy. LudwigPastorius Oct 2025 #39
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