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muriel_volestrangler

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80. It's a lie, on several levels; I can't see why you think that makes it a 'very good ad'

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:16 PM

Dec 2012

First, they took out 'POLICE' to allow them to imply it wasn't a police officer ('not a police action')

Then, they imply that the decision to arm the man was Obama's - when he's actually a British police officer.

Then, they imply Obama gets this protection where the 'ordinary person' doesn't. But the one place in Britain you will regularly see armed police, with guns like that, is at airports, among the public:

https://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=638&q=police+heathrow+armed&oq=police+heathrow+armed

Though, unsurprisingly, visiting heads of state are going to get more intense protection than the rest of us.

If you're happy describing a litany of right wing lies as a 'very good ad', you are, at best, a cynical person who doesn't take sides in politics.

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Fake right wing meme alert: that WAS a cop guarding Obama's plane in London! [View all] alp227 Dec 2012 OP

teabaggers lying... There is a surprise... Ohio Joe Dec 2012 #1

Good god skydive forever Dec 2012 #27

I read that as "police action" as in like Vietnam (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #2

guards was intentional, the RW thing now is to carp about "elites" having "guards". I learned that bettyellen Dec 2012 #5

So then why did the teabagger remove the word? RetroLounge Dec 2012 #50

K&R. Needs as much exposure as possible. Whovian Dec 2012 #3

I wish people would realize Warpy Dec 2012 #4

This is their new meme, apparently Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #6

i get so tired of it. barbtries Dec 2012 #7

It's real simple Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #9

yea. barbtries Dec 2012 #12

I really enjoy 'plinking'. snort Dec 2012 #86

Why not have those weapons available to rent at firing ranges? Chemisse Dec 2012 #92

i hadn't even thought of that. barbtries Dec 2012 #130

Nope. It's not "Obama's" kids, it's the President's kids. Same thing for the Bush kids out drinking Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2012 #48

Yes very easy treestar Dec 2012 #136

When Bush was president adieu Dec 2012 #137

Yes and did a single right winger complain about that? treestar Dec 2012 #139

Kinda semantic... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #8

... ooookay. sarchasm Dec 2012 #14

No thank you... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #16

Wonderfull line. marble falls Dec 2012 #127

Not really about semantics. I would be more open to the idea of people carrying guns IF JaneyVee Dec 2012 #21

I'm not really in favor of people carrying guns at all... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #28

Sounds like you're getting a bit worked up over it considering you've replied 7 times in this thread Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #38

You are absolutely right... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #47

Do you really believe billh58 Dec 2012 #64

The unfortunate thing... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #88

It is a bit deceiving Kaleva Dec 2012 #65

I can see what you're saying... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #74

Person could have made the same arguement without photoshoping Kaleva Dec 2012 #78

Which is why it would have been better just to leave it... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #79

Reminds me of that flap over Bush's service records. Kaleva Dec 2012 #81

My gosh... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #83

No, that person absolutely could not have made the same argument. Jim Lane Dec 2012 #114

Editing, by definition, is deception LanternWaste Dec 2012 #125

The fact that they photoshopped the word POLICE Rex Dec 2012 #22

Oh, so it's the word 'police' that has gotten you in a tizzy.. OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #24

Nice try. Rex Dec 2012 #30

For you? OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #33

For you, a PPR soon RetroLounge Dec 2012 #51

Whatevs... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #54

If photoshopping the "POLICE" out doesn't make any difference lolly Dec 2012 #31

You have to want to be sincere in asking that question Rex Dec 2012 #35

Now you're talkin'.... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #37

Nope. You lost the argument - you cannot backpedal now Rex Dec 2012 #39

Does it really make a difference?... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #36

And forget the attempt at deception in 3...2...1... Rex Dec 2012 #40

You again?... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #41

Bingo! You just made everyone's point: billh58 Dec 2012 #70

Very well crafted... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #72

Wouldn't know, as they've billh58 Dec 2012 #75

Sorry to hear that... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #77

you stole my ball-bust! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #145

Then why did the caption say he wasn't the police? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #42

Ugh, not defending it... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #44

Bullshit. Yes you were. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #46

How is it not valid? OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #49

Schumer is like me Dirty Socialist Dec 2012 #71

...and there is nothing wrong with it OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #76

It's a lie, on several levels; I can't see why you think that makes it a 'very good ad' muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #80

Geez... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #82

No, it's your enthusiastic adoption of NRA talking points that has caused us all to hate you muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #84

Ah, well... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #87

Ah, BULLSHIT! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #146

But you're missing the point CJCRANE Dec 2012 #90

How is that the point?... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #93

So if I was walking through Heathrow Chemisse Dec 2012 #103

Being swayed by things that support your own opinion suggests that you can't think for yourself... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #105

This washing machine with wings says that most people accept Chemisse Dec 2012 #122

being paid to say things nobody wants to hear suggests you suck farminator3000 Dec 2012 #153

Just curious-- Why tblue37 Dec 2012 #115

As if he had any say in the matter when it was Heathrow Airport.... Historic NY Dec 2012 #95

Of course not... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #98

You are suggesting that people should not be disturbed by the photoshopping of the word police. Chemisse Dec 2012 #97

Oh dear... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #101

Ok. Then explain how you can prove that this one photo bolsters the argument. Chemisse Dec 2012 #104

I just did in response to your calling me a 'pro-gun zealot'... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #106

I finally figured out what your point about the pres's plane tblue37 Dec 2012 #117

That must be it - because that makes a lot of sense. Chemisse Dec 2012 #121

nicely said! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #147

LOL! No, forced as in fake. Chemisse Dec 2012 #151

hee hee! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #152

It's what they do RetroLounge Dec 2012 #53

I can only guess you are saying that I am 'Pro Gun'... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #57

Nice try... RetroLounge Dec 2012 #61

You know, it is in fact possible not to be in lock step with what you are 'supposed' to think... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #69

Yeah, that must be it... RetroLounge Dec 2012 #118

why don't you get "lock fingers" and stop typing? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #148

does deliberate deception G_j Dec 2012 #124

The point is not valid. RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #43

Actually, they weren't advocating that an average citizen requires the same level of security... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #45

Oh please. RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #52

I will thank you... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #58

Defending the photo again? Chemisse Dec 2012 #99

What the Hell are you talking about?... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #102

and it's always the lost post count gunners jumping to their defense RetroLounge Dec 2012 #63

Yep... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #67

No. Because its making a bullshit argument. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #111

Yep, JUST like that... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #113

Yep. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #116

Or because the President can authorize nuclear weapons buzzroller Dec 2012 #126

Record threats of violence against this president, his wife and family from raging Right Wing Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #10

Yeah! And, he's not trying to take away their fucking Cha Dec 2012 #17

I think most of us here understand that the hard-core right would not shed a tear Flatulo Dec 2012 #56

When do these people read their Bibles? That Ten Commandment thing, mzmolly Dec 2012 #11

Do they not know the difference between a police op and an ordinary citizen? Lex Dec 2012 #13

Gun advocates have an emotional attachment to guns that supersedes truth. DaveJ Dec 2012 #15

Yes. MsPithy Dec 2012 #59

Yes but it adequately portrays humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #18

It is way past time for a new Constitution......n/t humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #19

no, no new constution...imagine the RW trying to find Madison irisblue Dec 2012 #29

True but... humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #34

And this is why the GOP is the party of failure and humiliation. Rex Dec 2012 #20

Not surprised sakabatou Dec 2012 #23

photoshop anyone PatrynXX Dec 2012 #25

Our President is "Commander in Chief" They_Live Dec 2012 #26

and the good reason to protect The PRESIDENT irisblue Dec 2012 #32

so let me get this straight, the rightwing nutjob underthematrix Dec 2012 #55

Terrible logic. By that concept, we should all get to have nukes. Dash87 Dec 2012 #60

I have nothing against secret service or national guard for every single person in the nation graham4anything Dec 2012 #62

They would use their guns to shoot the police (NWO thugs to them) so they can't give credit. freshwest Dec 2012 #66

Lies, Lies, Lies...and more lies... SoapBox Dec 2012 #68

It would be pretty worrisome if somebody who wasn't a cop and not engaged in a military action, was Tiggeroshii Dec 2012 #73

Some people apparently don't get it Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #85

If the gun fetishists sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #89

People on both sides of the argument are missing the point as per post #80 CJCRANE Dec 2012 #91

desperate measures from desperate people SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2012 #94

The POTUS Lands in England... And He is Responsible for the Security Decisions? TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #96

Anyone who has been in a European airport knows that they carry automatic weapons underpants Dec 2012 #100

which isn't that many Americans a of late. mwooldri Dec 2012 #108

Life inside the bubble. Our weather maps have no weather in Canada or Mexico underpants Dec 2012 #112

AFAIK national weather forecasts have always been about the nation at hand. mwooldri Jan 2013 #156

Thanks I didn't know that underpants Jan 2013 #157

FAIL! and an assinine one too. n/t UtahLib Dec 2012 #107

that's a Metropolitan Police firearms officer. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #109

They have been armed with a like weapon for a number of years.. Historic NY Dec 2012 #120

Right. He's supposed to be just some random dude with an assault weapon. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #110

Same old same old defacto7 Dec 2012 #119

Even if the photo hadn't edited the word "police" out justiceischeap Dec 2012 #123

Seems to be confusion as to definition of "police action" - lynne Dec 2012 #141

Yes, I'm familiar with the way every one else describes it justiceischeap Dec 2012 #143

"less lethal"? heaven05 Dec 2012 #128

doesn't that sound like something from Orwell's 1984??? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #155

I get these emails from time to time. aandegoons Dec 2012 #129

have you noticed Skittles Dec 2012 #131

Bookmarked for use later sellitman Dec 2012 #132

This is NOT rightwing only phenomenon. We have many DUers just like this. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #133

What are they blathering on about today? louis-t Dec 2012 #134

They also resent a white guy guarding a black guy.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2012 #135

This is exactly what they do to statistics. caseymoz Dec 2012 #138

Uh, he's still not participating in a "police action" - lynne Dec 2012 #140

"Not participating in police action"? What, he's just having a cup of tea with the missus is he? dutchroll Dec 2012 #144

these lying repukes will say anything to cling to their guns, money and legalized bribes to Congress wordpix Dec 2012 #142

they should have photoshopped military out, too..Commander in Chief? um farminator3000 Dec 2012 #149

oh my! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #150

K&R farminator3000 Dec 2012 #154