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Celerity

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Thu Oct 30, 2025, 09:36 PM Oct 2025

Here's How the AI Crash Happens [View all]


The U.S. is becoming an Nvidia-state.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2025/10/data-centers-ai-crash/684765/

https://archive.ph/ItWnp


Data centers in New Carlisle, Indiana (AJ Mast / The New York Times / Redux)

The AI boom is visible from orbit. Satellite photos of New Carlisle, Indiana, show greenish splotches of farmland transformed into unmistakable industrial parks in less than a year’s time. There are seven rectangular data centers there, with 23 more on the way. Inside each of these buildings, endless rows of fridge-size containers of computer chips wheeze and grunt as they perform mathematical operations at an unfathomable scale. The buildings belong to Amazon and are being used by Anthropic, a leading AI firm, to train and run its models. According to one estimate, this data-center campus, far from complete, already demands more than 500 megawatts of electricity to power these calculations—as much as hundreds of thousands of American homes. When all the data centers in New Carlisle are built, they will demand more power than two Atlantas.

The amount of energy and money being poured into AI is breathtaking. Global spending on the technology is projected to hit $375 billion by the end of the year and half a trillion dollars in 2026. Three-quarters of gains in the S&P 500 since the launch of ChatGPT came from AI-related stocks; the value of every publicly traded company has, in a sense, been buoyed by an AI-driven bull market. To cement the point, Nvidia, a maker of the advanced computer chips underlying the AI boom, yesterday became the first company in history to be worth $5 trillion.

Here’s another way of thinking about the transformation under way: Multiplying Ford’s current market cap 94 times over wouldn’t quite get you to Nvidia’s. Yet 20 years ago, Ford was worth nearly triple what Nvidia was. Much like how Saudi Arabia is a petrostate, the U.S. is a burgeoning AI state—and, in particular, an Nvidia-state. The number keeps going up, which has a buoying effect on markets that is, in the short term, good. But every good earnings report further entrenches Nvidia as a precariously placed, load-bearing piece of the global economy.

America appears to be, at the moment, in a sort of benevolent hostage situation. AI-related spending now contributes more to the nation’s GDP growth than all consumer spending combined, and by another calculation, those AI expenditures accounted for 92 percent of GDP growth during the first half of 2025. Since the launch of ChatGPT, in late 2022, the tech industry has gone from making up 22 percent of the value in the S&P 500 to roughly one-third. Just yesterday, Meta, Microsoft, and Alphabet all reported substantial quarterly-revenue growth, and Reuters reported that OpenAI is planning to go public perhaps as soon as next year at a value of up to $1 trillion—which would be one of the largest IPOs in history. (An OpenAI spokesperson told Reuters, “An IPO is not our focus, so we could not possibly have set a date”; OpenAI and The Atlantic have a corporate partnership.)

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Here's How the AI Crash Happens [View all] Celerity Oct 2025 OP
Worrying. cachukis Oct 2025 #1
Yes, somewhat. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #8
So they'll fast-track AI in all the things just to prop up the economy. tinrobot Oct 2025 #2
They haven't forgotten that at all - the EXACT same machines are the ones used to make crypto coins AZJonnie Oct 2025 #10
No. But your point about jobs & economy is good. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #11
There was some AI generated music that really amazed me... I like your take on this btw... bsiebs Oct 2025 #23
It wouldn't amaze you if you cared about the artists whose work was stolen to train the AI. highplainsdem Oct 2025 #28
I'm amazed at what trump did to the east wing of the white house... doesn't mean I agree with it... bsiebs Oct 2025 #30
Well, that is all grand UpInArms Oct 2025 #3
Wrong. You seem to have adopted an ideological tenet in your first sentence and warped your perspective around it. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #12
Pick your poison genxlib Oct 2025 #4
A limited perspective leads to nihilism. Enlarge your perspective and think outside of the box a little more. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #13
I posted earlier. usonian Oct 2025 #5
Yes, it is a bubble, but the previous internet bubble of 2000 led to smart phones and many things we love to use. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #15
I'm not finding the "how the crash happens" part Fiendish Thingy Oct 2025 #6
The improvements made by each new AI model are becoming smaller and smaller, making the idea that Silicon Valley can Celerity Oct 2025 #7
Just like LLMs were revolutionary, there are or will be new revolutionary developments that won't be small and increment Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #17
Thank You Fiendish Thingy Oct 2025 #18
Likewise. The article laid out many issues a lot of us are familiar with but was not very enlightening. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #16
The crash or bubble deflation will be triggered by small or large collapses of financing built on over-promises & fraud Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #20
There are plenty of pay AI services IronLionZion Oct 2025 #25
If i understand it, which is a big question Bmoboy Oct 2025 #9
No. Not a takeover of all such jobs. There will remain a need for judgement, creativity, and oversight Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #19
That's not a huge workforce Bmoboy Oct 2025 #21
People said the same thing about the transition to mechanized farming. They were wrong. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #22
DURec leftstreet Oct 2025 #14
AI growth's raised electrical utility costs nationwide. Per Forbes & Joinarbor.com, residential costs have risen by 30% ancianita Oct 2025 #24
One thing I noticed in the picture. Mr. Evil Oct 2025 #26
I think trump wants and needs a crash. Our debt level is too high and the costs to service the debt. Melon Oct 2025 #27
Thanks, Celerity! Generative AI is the most harmful tech ever developed, and if there was ever an highplainsdem Oct 2025 #29
The investments based on an expectation of exponential growth of profits al bupp Nov 2025 #31
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