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In reply to the discussion: Sure looks like Garland blew it.... [View all]ancianita
(42,759 posts)163. Not the main one. The judiciary hurt the country. AG Garland was the solution, not part of the problem.
There was no "EARLY." But there were
republican confirmation delays,
courts allowing frivolous motions,
courts hearing schedules,
courts appeals delays,
and the worst, SCOTUS delays
In review. For the TENTH time.
GARLAND was confirmed 2 MONTHS after Biden -- Republican holdup
Garland's #2 was confirmed by Congress 3 MONTHS after Biden -- Republican holdup;
then Lisa Monaco immediately operationalized the DOJ's eight major divisions.
Mar 10 2021: Merrick Garland confirmed as AG by Congress
Mar 11 2021: AG Garland assumes office
Apr 21 2021: Deputy AG Lisa O. Monaco assumes office
Delay detractors" are off by over a year because the FBI IS the DOJ, and Garland's FBI began arrests on Jan 6 2021 and continued DOJ convictions until December 2024.
During the first months of FBI arrest actions, Garland was prosecuting new and outstanding cases, all while rebuilding the personnel of his assistant AGs, deputies, and 8 Division heads. And meanwhile...
Republicans DELAY: STILL made Garland wait months for his division heads' confirmations;
SIX MONTHS after Biden inaugurated, July 2021: Republicans did not confirm Kenneth Polite to head the DOJ Criminal Division
10 months after he assumed office, January 6 2022 Garland stated:
So far, we have
-- issued over 5,000 subpoenas and search warrants,
-- seized approximately 2,000 devices,
-- pored through over 20,000 hours of video footage, and
-- searched through an estimated 15 terabytes of data...
-- received over 300,000 tips from ordinary citizens, who have been our indispensable partners in this effort.
Jan 2022 Garland obtained
15 boxes found in the storage area
the FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Maralago of those
184 unique documents bearing classification markings, of those:
67 docs marked Confidential
92 docs marked Secret
25 docs marked Top Secret
markings reflected that docs were subject to sensitive compartments and dissemination controls
used to restrict access to material in the interest of national security, including
HCS(Humint Control system),
FISA(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act),
ORCON (originator controlled),
NORORN (could be NOFORN, no foreign national), AND
SI(Special Intelligence)
May 10 2022
The first 100 documents marked as classified totaled over 700 pages [National Archives letter to Trump attorney, May 10, 2022]
May 11 2022:
Garland convenes four DOJ Grand juries, one for Jan 6 convened until March 2024
Grand Jury subpoenas Trump for documents
June 3 2022
Trump lawyer hands over 40 boxes from Maralago storage room
38 docs marked Classified
June 3 2022: Garland's DOJ Grand jury subpoenas Trump for remaining classified govt documents in Maralago,
lawyers for Trump "certifying" that there were no more;
Trump stole 11,000 government docs, 300 classified docs lawyers earlier handed over even more
July 22 2022: Garland's Grand jury testimony by Marc Short, Mike Pences Chief of Staff, & Short's counsel Greg Jacob
August 8 2022
FBI warrant search of Maralago
103 marked Classified
18 marked Top Secret
The law violated: - 18 U.S.C. 793 Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.
Penalty: Fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
More on the indictability of stolen documents:
https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/
Sept 2 2022:
Garland's Grand jury subpoenaed testimony by Pat Cipollone,
a) one of the participants in WH meeting Dec 18 2020, that included Giuliani, Powell, Flynn, Patrick Byrne of Overstock,
b) Cipollone sat in on Jan 3 2021 DOJ official meeting with Trump, and
c) Cipollone was in direct contact with trump on Jan 6 during capitol insurrection, and did nothing when Meadows told him Trump didnt want to interfere with rioters calling for hanging Mike Pence)
and Patrick Philbin
Sept 15 2022: Garland's Grand Jury subpoenas Mark Meadows for testimony and documents
the month of Sept 2022: Garland's DOJ issued over 40 subpoenas to people close to Trump, some of whom are
Bill Stepien, DTs campaign mgr; part of team to prevent certification
Sean Dollman, DTs campaign CFO
Ben Williamson, Deputy of Mark Meadows,
Boris Epshteyn, Trump's lawyer -- phone demanded; part of team to prevent certification
Mike Lindell -- phone seized
William Russell, WH special asst to Trump, THEN special aide to Trump in Mar-a-lago
Oct 6 2022: Garland's Grand jury calls back Greg Jacob
Oct 13 2022: Garland's Grand Jury calls back Marc Short, Pence's chief of staff
Nov 4 2022: classified docs found in Bidens
-- Wilmington home (garage, library), (no docs in Rehoboth beach home) and
-- Penn Biden Center in DC (Richard Sauber is spec counsel to Pres Biden)
Nov 14 2022: Garland asks John Lausch (Trump appointed US Atty, Chicago) to review found Biden documents
Nov 18 2022 Garland appoints Jack Smith (3 days after Trump announces his candidacy for 2024), who inherits all the Garland evidence, investigative and charging documents
By that very day, Nov 18 2022, Garland's DOJ had convicted more than 323 Jan 6 insurrectionists.
All of the above is what AG Merrick Garland did before Jack Smith.
Garland actions were the CORE contribution to the two Special Counsel investigations.
Garland handed off GARLAND's Classified Documents case and Election Interference case to Jack Smith on the day Smith was sworn in.
These will forever remain the facts of Garland's Jan 6 work during his first 20 months in office -- SIXTEEN Jan 6 convictions per week -- INCLUDING...
Garland secured historic convictions for seditious conspiracy (18 U.S. Code § 2384) against leaders of Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys
Stewart Rhodes: sentenced in May 2023 to 18 years in prisonone of the longest sentences handed down in connection with the Capitol attack.
Kelly Meggs: The leader of the Oath Keepers' Florida -- 12 years in prison.
Joseph Hackett and Roberto Minuta: Florida chapters -- 42 months, 5 years
Enrique Tarrio: The former chairman of the Proud Boys -- 21 years in prison.
Ethan Nordean: 18 years in prison.
Joseph Biggs: A prominent organizer and a former Infowars correspondent --17 years in prison.
Zachary Rehl: The president of the Philadelphia chapter -- 15 years in prison.
What REALLY stands out is the memory-free, fact-free and willful ignorance of DU's Garland attackers, especially of Garland's wisdom in choosing Jack Smith at the Hague as Special Counsel.
My own past defense of Merrick Garland was to remind attackers here that they need more and wider perspective, and less self indulgent, constant complaining and name calling when they didn't get the faster convictions they want because of the federal courts system we have.
History will remember the factual scope and magnitude of justice the Garland DOJ gave this country, and Garland himself as the most productive AG of the last three Democratic administrations.
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putting responsibility for the downfall of the country all on Garland is total bullshit
LymphocyteLover
Oct 30
#16
Thank you. Attackers got no defense. No facts. No sources. Just scapegoating and bitching.
ancianita
Oct 30
#155
The right wing radicals have been playing by the rules of the abuser and the rapist
Stacey Grove
Oct 30
#54
Not the main one. The judiciary hurt the country. AG Garland was the solution, not part of the problem.
ancianita
Oct 30
#163
I'm trained as a scientist and follow the data too. But I must be following different data.
LymphocyteLover
Oct 30
#111
Garland stepped on his dick the whole time the greatest crime in US history was being planned.
Irish_Dem
Oct 30
#34
Nah, he clearly wasn't right for the job. 2021 wasn't the time for a timid "if we do something it's political" bs
themaguffin
Oct 30
#14
This isn't a Law & Order episode. You're such a defeatist. Patience, grasshopper. Garland's got this.
Scrivener7
Oct 30
#2
Oh, some still insist they were right all along, and Garland was actually totally speedy and effective.
Scrivener7
Oct 30
#5
Media still timidly, and with an abundance of caution, calls Fascists "authoritarians" goddammit.
RVN VET71
Oct 30
#31
The media should be hysterical with the nazi fascist language. Like they were with Biden's terrible debate.
Clouds Passing
Oct 30
#60
It is apparently "very concerning" to the media when an old Liberal shows his age
RVN VET71
Oct 30
#107
And now Trump is demanding indictments, claiming Garland weaponized the Justice Dept
Martin Eden
Oct 30
#46
IMHO, being cautious in prosecuting a former POTUS, no matter how guilty they seem, is
LymphocyteLover
Oct 30
#11
It isn't reasonable when the former POTUS engineered an attempted violent coup to overthrow an election.
Crunchy Frog
Oct 30
#67
Wrong. Merrick Garland, born in Chicago, was a Democrat when he was a private citizen in Chicago.
ancianita
Oct 30
#148
Did you see the press conference where Garland calls out Bondi's DOJ for their illegal relationship w the White house?
Intractable
Oct 30
#25
Lest we forget, Eric Holder was also about as useless as my left nut -- no attempt to even investigate
3Hotdogs
Oct 30
#119
Not certain Obama would agree with your assessment. As far as I can tell Obama has not spoken on the matter.
Joinfortmill
Oct 30
#62
Also, didn't Joe have one or two pages. Krasnov had a boat load of boxes. Sorting that out must have been time consuming
Joinfortmill
Oct 30
#63
I don't expect any President who is multitasking all day, to be the one primarily in charge of where he set down the
RoeVWade
Oct 30
#124
Words that are proportional to the election interference & massive coup attempt catastrophe by thousands.
ancianita
Oct 31
#165
I have to admit to getting a twinge of something resembling PTSD when I read this title.....
Ol Janx Spirit
Oct 30
#47
This will go down in history as the biggest mistake a Democratic President ever made in appointing a cabinet member.
lees1975
Oct 30
#73
When they found the truck load of secret, classified documents in his bathroom
questionseverything
Oct 30
#122
I'm Not a Garland Fan, But Other Than This Particular Appalling Slow-walk I Think His Record Is Pretty Unimpeachable
The Roux Comes First
Oct 30
#110
Garland as AG is the only person with authority to appoint a special counsel. nt
in2herbs
Oct 30
#145
"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, The Life of Reason (1905)
Celerity
Oct 30
#147
"Those who dwell on the past in despair make no progress" - MineralMan, Democratic Underground, 2025
MineralMan
Oct 31
#170
Indeed, a wise saying, that those who dwell on the past in despair make no progress...
SWBTATTReg
Oct 31
#174