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paleotn

(22,448 posts)
14. We may already have built way too many data centers.
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 10:25 AM
Nov 2025

AI isn't playing out as the productivity driver it was hyped to be. In fact, it's become the butt of jokes. And the problem isn't the tech giants. It's the hedge fund, shadow banking system that's leveraged to the hilt, and investors globally who've bought securities based solely on Meta and Amazon's willingness to keep paying leases on all those data centers they may not need and may never need.

When it becomes uneconomical for Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, et al., to continue those leases, for whatever reason, the music stops. If those giants decided to keep paying ( that being the lesser of two evils ) it's a massive, unproductive financial drain on their bottom lines. And the securities based on that stream of lease payment income become zombie investments. Collapsed in value but not gone to zero. Simply waiting for some other economic shock to figuratively shoot them in the head and wipe out bottom feeding speculators.

And all of this DOES NOT occur in a vacuum. You'd think that after the sub prime collapse, people would finally, FINALLY realize that everything in the global financial system is interconnected in one way or another. Financially, if a butterfly flaps its wings in Singapore, the S&P might just collapse in New York and an Icelandic bank goes belly up. So much we should have learned, should have firewalled, should have regulated, but didn't. And once again, it will be average people who pay the highest price. It sure as shit won't be Jeremy Iron's character in Margin Call or Zuckerberg the cyborg.

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dupe Celerity Nov 2025 #1
Great minds... edhopper Nov 2025 #5
Biggest difference in '08 is that Meta, et.al. have tons of money. Callie1979 Nov 2025 #2
That is just Meta edhopper Nov 2025 #6
But META's P/E is about 28; not really inflated compared to the broader market Callie1979 Nov 2025 #10
I don't think that poor people were the main drivers of the 2008 crash. yardwork Nov 2025 #9
Housing defaults were the biggest driver & being "poor" wasnt required. Callie1979 Nov 2025 #12
It was agnostic about poor/rich. The problem was layers of wrapping that disguised the true value of the securities. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #17
We may already have built way too many data centers. paleotn Nov 2025 #14
+1 leftstreet Nov 2025 #24
They all think they're going to find the pot o' gold at the end of the rainbow FakeNoose Nov 2025 #36
Thanks for the gift link FakeNoose Nov 2025 #3
Can air or ether be far behind? ntp AnnaLee Nov 2025 #4
Well people do pay ridiculous prices edhopper Nov 2025 #7
And there ARE "oxygen bars"! Callie1979 Nov 2025 #13
modern oxygen bars have been around since before I was born (1996) and talked about since 1776 Celerity Nov 2025 #15
Nitwits go to oxygen bars & then consume tons of anti-oxidant supplements. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #18
Somehow, whoever holds it, the debt needs to be serviced. My problem is these tech folks get bailed out by taxpayers. dutch777 Nov 2025 #8
I can easily imagine a government bail out... hunter Nov 2025 #20
I hope it happens before it does more damage jfz9580m Nov 2025 #11
It's a decent article but does not deliver on the title promise. I read it in Celerity's thread Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #16
I think this paragraph lays it out edhopper Nov 2025 #27
Yes, that is one way it might happen. Thanks . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #30
I think the article isn't predictive edhopper Nov 2025 #31
It might not crash. It is a bubble, but might deflate in an orderly way, like Meta dropping 11% this week Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #32
I am not sure when the last Bubble edhopper Nov 2025 #34
Taxpayers would probably end up bailing out the scumbag private equity firms like we did the banks and insurers in 2008. SunSeeker Jan 2026 #44
Can't happen soon enough. Borogove Nov 2025 #19
DUPE bif Nov 2025 #21
Be careful where you invest your money, peeps. Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #22
So if you have index funds, buy puts as a hedge (insurance)? 3Hotdogs Nov 2025 #23
80% of the run up this year4 edhopper Nov 2025 #26
Cautiously, after much study Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #33
Learn to use stop loss GreatGazoo Nov 2025 #35
But the billions into Data Centers edhopper Nov 2025 #37
Some of the infrastructure entities GreatGazoo Nov 2025 #40
Appl, Google MSFT,Meta edhopper Nov 2025 #41
Lawyers and their henchmen accountants. or vice versa Tetrachloride Nov 2025 #25
The key point: Meta, Amazon et al will have no responsibility for the data center bankruptcies Bluetus Nov 2025 #28
My greatest concern with AI has nothing to do with economic impact Martin Eden Nov 2025 #29
The Big Short - great break down of 2008 housing collapse... lame54 Nov 2025 #38
Actually, fwiw, snot Nov 2025 #39
Powell just said AI isn't a bubble SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #42
And the folks that ignored the Housing Bubble agree edhopper Nov 2025 #43
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