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stopdiggin

(15,193 posts)
7. and not sure if they are 'required' to provide ID to anyone (and everyone?)
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 12:33 PM
Nov 2025

passing by on the sidewalk. Further, it would seem that these 'agents' have been give full authority (and approval?) to go incognito - without markings or identification - by superiors and higher authority. If that standard is to be overturned, it would need to happen in the courts or halls of congress. But it isn't going to happen on the street.

Record. Look for helpful detail - make, model, license, type of uniform and equipment. Ask questions - (if you're bold, and feel safe in doing so).
But, using caution (and a decent distance). Your right to 'intervene' or 'interaction' (as a witness/observer) is very limited - and could very well land you with charges and arrest yourself.

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What to do if you see a kidnapping .... [View all] ihaveaquestion Nov 2025 OP
I don't think it's always safe for a bystander to ask ICE etc. people spooky3 Nov 2025 #1
One could tell 911 "I was afraid to confront them and couldn't ask for ID" and do the rest. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #2
Yes nt spooky3 Nov 2025 #3
and not sure if they are 'required' to provide ID to anyone (and everyone?) stopdiggin Nov 2025 #7
They're not. But the point, for the purposes of the 911 call, is that they didn't,.... Iggo Nov 2025 #10
Google this court case. brakester Nov 2025 #32
Nothing Polybius Nov 2025 #4
Also record it on your phone for evidence. Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #5
Says who? This is not what refugee/immigrant orgs recommend WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #6
which part do they contravene ? stopdiggin Nov 2025 #8
calling cops WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #12
I think that's fairly questionable too stopdiggin Nov 2025 #13
There's always a non emergency number, then it's still on record, the police will come and investigate questionseverything Nov 2025 #15
Better to consult with your local immigrant org and see if they have a hotline for rapid response teams WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #19
There's another reason Cirsium Nov 2025 #35
hmmmm? stopdiggin Nov 2025 #38
Get serious Cirsium Nov 2025 #42
competely serious. If you DON'T call the police (after something like a serious assault) stopdiggin Nov 2025 #43
not really Cirsium Nov 2025 #44
In Florida the governor has officially mandated all LEO's to help ICE, on penalty of job loss. ancianita Nov 2025 #34
Game wardens Cirsium Nov 2025 #37
What are they recommending? Ruby the Liberal Nov 2025 #30
contact your local immigrant/refugee org; they'll have guidance WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #31
i ask myself what would Ben-hur do Tetrachloride Nov 2025 #9
***THIS !!!*** Is what we need from democratic party leadership uponit7771 Nov 2025 #11
Is this for real? On who's advice is this recommended? I'm dubious of random littlemissmartypants Nov 2025 #14
Yeah, I'm skeptical about this kind of stuff, too. ShazzieB Nov 2025 #16
It's a "no go" for me. I totally understand your points, SB. I'd like to live to fight another day. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 2025 #18
Kick and recommend bronxiteforever Nov 2025 #17
Wow! I never thought there were so many, let's say umm, "risk averse," people on DU. ihaveaquestion Nov 2025 #20
fighting with LE very rarely leads to a positive outcome. in good conscience I cannot recommend ... stopdiggin Nov 2025 #22
There is nothing about "fighting LE" in the post. Only reporting to verified LE an illegal action by ihaveaquestion Nov 2025 #23
and yet we feel the need for a 'scold' on responses rendered ... stopdiggin Nov 2025 #24
I'm not risk averse. I'm averse to following random-ass instructions like this one. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #25
This is a very horrific & confusing situation Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2025 #27
That'd make it easier to find. calimary Nov 2025 #46
Thanks Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #21
I wouldn't say anything about what they claimed but just say armed men attacked a person and kidnapped them. Wonder Why Nov 2025 #26
Recording the incident and calling 911 duckworth969 Nov 2025 #28
An inconvenience to me... ret5hd Nov 2025 #29
Record it while asking the victim their name and a phone number to call to notify others. nilram Nov 2025 #33
Federal law enforcement in cooperation with state law enforcement is only kidnapping if courts & law ancianita Nov 2025 #36
Witnesses to these incidents can't be expected to judge whether they are valid arrests or a kidnapping. ihaveaquestion Nov 2025 #39
Witnesses can record & report it as anything they want to call it, for the little to no good that will do in red states ancianita Nov 2025 #40
Of course not. But witnesses can also be "seen" by LEO's as obstructing their work. So be aware. ancianita Nov 2025 #41
"Extrajudicial" like most words has various meanings and is a living word Ilikepurple Nov 2025 #45
Definitely a keeper. calimary Nov 2025 #47
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