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Bluetus

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36. This goes back a few years
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:13 PM
Nov 2025

2019:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/12/nancy-pelosis-renewed-attacks-on-aoc-arent-just-disrespectful-theyre-dangerous

Since that time, they have both had the good sense to not tangle in public. Pelosi learned that AOC could not be bullied, and they are both better off trying to find common ground.

But the essential difference is that Pelosi was from the generations that viewed the job as making deals for votes whereas AOC, Warren, and many others more progressive view the job from the perspective of making lives better for Americans. They may be addressing the same problems and might end up in the same place, but the perspective is entirely different. Personally I prefer the starting point being "What would be very good for Americans?" versus "What kind of deal can we make?"

It is not a zero sum game where what one side gains the other loses. We can invest in things that lift everyone up, and also generate the economic activity to pay the bills. So I think it should start with the ideas, not the budgets.

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I've always admired her... and I continue to do so. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #1
In recent years she was often the only adult in the room. * 617Blue Nov 2025 #5
She's been treated with such contempt and disrespect, even among our own... it was embarrassing and maddening to see. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #6
Kinda like how Joe was treated tintinvotes Nov 2025 #10
She is a class act. Thank you Nancy! boston bean Nov 2025 #2
Thank you Madam Speaker. * 617Blue Nov 2025 #3
Thank you for your service Madam Speaker SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #4
We need a new culture in the Party ... Bluetus Nov 2025 #13
Pelosi lives in San Francisco not New York SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #14
She certainly has been right out front directly attacking AOC Bluetus Nov 2025 #16
Not the question I asked. SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #17
She certainly has weighed in on her opinion of New York politicians, so yes. Bluetus Nov 2025 #21
Who did she endorse for mayor and what year? SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #23
She is a national politician. She has given her opinions about candidates all over. Bluetus Nov 2025 #24
And NYC Mayor is a local office. SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #25
I think you took one line out of a thoughtful if not entirely correct comment and grievance shopped? Ilikepurple Nov 2025 #27
Because he made a false accusation SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #28
What lie? What was the false accusation? There was no attack in the meaningful sense of the word. Ilikepurple Nov 2025 #39
Yes there was SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #40
You could have just asked Bluetus to respect the retirement thread and start a new discussion Ilikepurple Nov 2025 #42
I'll respond to people as I like SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #44
For the record, I think Bluetus's statement on Pelosi's NYC mayor endorsements is wrong. Ilikepurple Nov 2025 #51
Thanks but SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #52
He took one line and completely twisted it into something I didn't say. Bluetus Nov 2025 #31
This was a thread about Pelosi's retirement SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #38
You attributed to me something I did not say. That is called a STRAW MAN argument. Bluetus Nov 2025 #41
You slammed Pelosi for not endorsing Mamdani, that's the straw man SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #43
Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #46
You chose to respond to my post SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #49
Why Are You Attacking Nancy Pelosi. Cha Nov 2025 #19
Am I? Is there anything I said that wasn't true? Bluetus Nov 2025 #22
Why are you calling this an attack? Your reply is more of an attack? Ilikepurple Nov 2025 #29
Did you write that? leftstreet Nov 2025 #30
I wrote it. It is a bit rough, but I hope it is clear enough. Bluetus Nov 2025 #33
It's really good leftstreet Nov 2025 #35
When has Pelosi criticized AOC? yardwork Nov 2025 #32
This goes back a few years Bluetus Nov 2025 #36
Nonsense. That's a slanted opinion piece. yardwork Nov 2025 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Nov 2025 #34
Thank you Mme. Speaker... for everything. FalloutShelter Nov 2025 #7
i assumed she wd step down when her bff mopinko Nov 2025 #8
A great and effective leader. themaguffin Nov 2025 #9
My thanks to her for the long and good service! MineralMan Nov 2025 #11
MAGAts will gladly give up their SNAP bennies and starve for this news. Turbineguy Nov 2025 #12
I'll miss her experience and savvy. Torchlight Nov 2025 #15
Speaker Pelosi mr715 Nov 2025 #18
Congratulations on a Life Time of Staller Cha Nov 2025 #20
❤️ underpants Nov 2025 #26
We'll meet again struggle4progress Nov 2025 #37
Remember when this song was used at the end of Dr. Strangelove? dwayneb Nov 2025 #48
Sad to see her go... dwayneb Nov 2025 #47
What was your favorite Nancy Pelosi moment? LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2025 #50
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