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lapucelle

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57. What assumptions are there?
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 12:44 PM
Nov 2025

Last edited Sat Nov 8, 2025, 04:01 PM - Edit history (1)

I stated facts and made a reasonable inference.

- WPF accidentally nominated a Republican to run in the NY-17 general election for a congressional seat
- WFP spent donor money on attack ads against its own candidate in a mad scramble to undo the damage

Reasonable inference: Accidentally nominating a spoiler candidate and then having to spend donated funds to campaign against the candidate it nominated demonstrates basic incompetence on the part of third party Working Family Party.

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Seems reasonable to me. yardwork Nov 2025 #1
Yes, I saw it as a way of saying thank you. ananda Nov 2025 #97
Nothing wrong with that SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #2
Our two party system is a barrier in so many ways. yardwork Nov 2025 #6
It really isn't. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #27
They align with Dems edhopper Nov 2025 #44
And therefore Mamdani voting Democratic would not have impacted them much... W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #56
The WFPis not divisive edhopper Nov 2025 #58
Again, I'm not criticizing WFP here -- I'm criticizing Mamdani's response to a loaded question. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #68
I see. edhopper Nov 2025 #86
More parties might lead to more pressure to BlueKota Nov 2025 #30
The requirement to hold informal coalitions together is a huge flaw thought crime Nov 2025 #118
Yes I usually WFP on next office down. IbogaProject Nov 2025 #34
If it were against Andrew Cuomo SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #40
So what? NoRethugFriends Nov 2025 #3
Don't care. Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #4
This was one of his first tests as mayor-elect and he did not pass. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #46
I think you're reading way too much into this. yardwork Nov 2025 #98
Feel free to bookmark my post and check back around this time next year. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #109
Glad he won, but just as much as it pisses me off that so many Democratic leaders didn't endorse him or Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #5
I disagree. yardwork Nov 2025 #9
The disloyalty of "leave it blank" was a big consideration for some who delayed or who gave a perfunctory endorsement. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #15
Schumer should have SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #26
Mamdani did not get President Obama's endorsement. lapucelle Nov 2025 #43
Looks like Obama made the right decision after this report about Mamdani. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #47
I thought he was smart enough to follow the AOC path, the one leading to a future in politics. betsuni Nov 2025 #80
AOC seemed to learn relatively early on that you have to work with others to accomplish anything in a democracy. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #87
Has Obama endorsed a candidate before? SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #49
Yes. President Obama endorsed Bill de Blasio in 2013 and Bill Thompson in 2009. lapucelle Nov 2025 #63
When was President SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #69
You asked whether Obama has ever endorsed a NYC mayoral candidate "before". The answer is "yes". lapucelle Nov 2025 #76
Yes he did SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #81
Obama has integrity. He's an honorable man... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #95
If ANY Democratic leader is directly asked what they think of ANY Democratic primary winner, the endorsement should be Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #71
Does that include Tom Suozzi SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #73
After their next primary, if the Democratic voters in their district have spoken and chosen them? Yes it does. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #75
No but this is SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #77
Yes. He was. And as I said, I don't like him not voting in the Dem line. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #78
Cool SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #83
That's nice. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #84
Thanks SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #88
OMG how dare he!!!! JonAndKatePlusABird Nov 2025 #7
OK markodochartaigh Nov 2025 #8
I was a huge fan of Mario Cuomo BlueKota Nov 2025 #35
If markodochartaigh Nov 2025 #89
No he did not. BlueKota Nov 2025 #99
I think he forgot the sarcasm tag IbogaProject Nov 2025 #36
And............? Nanjeanne Nov 2025 #10
Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one party only Ping Tung Nov 2025 #11
Hasn't Bernie been doing this for years? nt Wounded Bear Nov 2025 #12
Sanders runs in the primary unopposed as a Democrat and then declines the nomination. lapucelle Nov 2025 #14
Gaming the system? Or a middle finger to the party? QueerDuck Nov 2025 #16
Whatever. The people in his state seem to be OK with it... Wounded Bear Nov 2025 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author QueerDuck Nov 2025 #18
For now, yes. But I think it sets a bad example and only serves to weaken the party in the long run. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #19
If there is one lesson we need to take from Tuesday's victories... Wounded Bear Nov 2025 #23
National politics are not local. Third parties are spoilers that weaken and divide and benefit the GOP. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #31
Didn't even have to look to figure out this one's favorite group NoRethugFriends Nov 2025 #72
Seriously?? Why the contempt for the Democratic party? He used the party machinery to run for office... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #13
The WFP edhopper Nov 2025 #21
Oh brother... the "would you rather" type of evasive response generally indicates a position of weakness... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #29
No edhopper Nov 2025 #38
Unless, of course, they accidently run Republicans in general elections. lapucelle Nov 2025 #52
No. What they are saying is "the Democrats are not worth your vote." It depresses turnout and... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #53
You are wrong edhopper Nov 2025 #59
What contempt? Can you show me the contempt on this doll? Is the contempt in the room with us right now? Iggo Nov 2025 #66
HA! 🤣😂🤪 QueerDuck Nov 2025 #70
I also voted for him edhopper Nov 2025 #20
Last year the NYS WFP accidently nominated a Republican spoiler lapucelle Nov 2025 #23
accidently edhopper Nov 2025 #41
So folks need to be careful who they vote for on the WFP's ballot line. lapucelle Nov 2025 #45
A lot of assumbtions there edhopper Nov 2025 #50
What assumptions are there? lapucelle Nov 2025 #57
If the vote does not benefit the Democrat, then it benefits the Republican. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #110
The WFP did not nominate Frascone Quiet Em Nov 2025 #96
Republican Francone was the WFP nominee in the 2024 general election. That's a simple fact. lapucelle Nov 2025 #103
The Republicans gamed the system. I'll agree with that. Quiet Em Nov 2025 #108
NYWFP puts in a lot of the ground work to get Democrats elected in New York State Quiet Em Nov 2025 #22
I'm a DNC member in NYS. I know all about the Working Family Party and what they do lapucelle Nov 2025 #37
Do you think they did more to get Mamdani elected than actual Democrats? W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #39
I think they play a role in helping elect Democrats in NYS. Quiet Em Nov 2025 #48
I don't fault WFP for what they did -- I fault Mamdani for what he did, or at least his answer to the question. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #54
I don't know. Quiet Em Nov 2025 #62
please notice that politico says it was stated by Mamdani's campaign niyad Nov 2025 #92
I do know that. And that is the same as coming from Mamdani himself. Hence "spokesman." W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #93
Since it is politico, I would want to hear from Mayor-elect Mamdani himself. niyad Nov 2025 #94
So he'd be in violation of TOS if he tried to post here Shrek Nov 2025 #25
How would he be in violation? niyad Nov 2025 #28
Members are required to support Democrats Shrek Nov 2025 #32
And again, I say how? He is not attacking Democrats. niyad Nov 2025 #42
How? Emile Nov 2025 #33
"not a good look" this is a message board my dude WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #60
I don't think that's loyal enough to our party gulliver Nov 2025 #51
So, How Does Anyone Know That? MineralMan Nov 2025 #55
Politico's Albany reporter attributes the information to a Mamdani campaign spokesperson. lapucelle Nov 2025 #74
It's a thing in NY that people who support the WFP vote on that line because if they Raftergirl Nov 2025 #61
I'm well aware of the WFP machinations in NYS. They ran "Leave It Blank" in the Democratic presidential primary in 2024. lapucelle Nov 2025 #90
Wow, what a surprise. Nixie Nov 2025 #64
Yep...don't care. Iggo Nov 2025 #65
We also have a Conservative Party in NY and every R is also cross endorsed with them. So some people choose Raftergirl Nov 2025 #67
The Conservative Party did not cross-endorse the Republican candidate for mayor in 2025. lapucelle Nov 2025 #91
Not always cross endorsed but often. All the R's in my town election were crossed endorsed by Conservative Party. Raftergirl Nov 2025 #100
So it is not true that "every R is also cross endorsed with [the Consevative Party candidate], lapucelle Nov 2025 #104
Ok. Most R's are cross endorsed. Better? Raftergirl Nov 2025 #105
Absolutely better. It's important to keep track of what third parties are actually up to, lapucelle Nov 2025 #107
I voted all on third party in my county here Historic NY Nov 2025 #79
Innnteresting. Seems like this thread did what it was intended to do. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #82
ADL creates new 'Mamdani Monitor' project to track his administration policies Ping Tung Nov 2025 #85
Under the guise of fighting hate speech, the ADL has a long history of attacking Arab, Black, and queer people. Celerity Nov 2025 #101
Agreed. And, they're making very little effort to hide their own bigotry. Ping Tung Nov 2025 #102
Fuck terrorist-adjacent Emmaia Gelman and her anti-ADL screed. lapucelle Nov 2025 #106
Canary Mission: Trump officials used shadowy website to target pro-Palestinian academics for deportation, court Celerity Nov 2025 #111
It's a disgusting very unAmerican McCarthyite Hate Site vanessa_ca Nov 2025 #112
Yes, it is dismaying to see it pushed here. Celerity Nov 2025 #113
The vile celebration of the October 7 slaughter comes staight from vile terrorist-adjacent Emmaia Gelman's Instagram lapucelle Nov 2025 #116
I don't care one way or the other but I bet that is bullshit. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #114
NYS has a fusion voting system. A candidate can appear on more than one ballot line. lapucelle Nov 2025 #117
Don't care orangecrush Nov 2025 #115
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